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On the other hand, did I not read in some study issue: “Later, under the pretext of greeting his cousin Amasa, Joab took hold of Amasa’s beard with his right hand as if to kiss him and then ran him through with the sword in his left hand.”

Shave off those beards, you bad brothers! Later, when you notice no one has run you through, you can thank me.

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A lot of speculation there. I think this is about unity. I always say there is strength in numbers. It's apparent that HQ received many "complaints" (they said so) from people who were argui

I think the current GB realizes it has a compilation of messes on its hands that can only accrue problematically. It's trying to dig itself out. But the fear is the pile is too deep. Ultimately the 19

My speculations aren't worth the time to read them, but I'm guessing a timeline like the following:  2024: No more Circuit Overseers. (The reason that the District Overseers were let go was not b

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10 hours ago, Thinking said:
On 12/15/2023 at 5:56 PM, Pudgy said:

It would have helped,  had there been an apology for all the ruined lives.

There was not.

There won’t be an apology or a “ we should have handled that differently”

as then it’s getting into legalities……I know you have been seriously hurt…and it’s a crying shame that only those with such scars really get what you are saying.

Im happy for your sons too and also my grandchildren…a different era of things..and Jehovah remembers those who have drifted….he doesn’t forget them.

Oh, don’t mind Pudgy with his bellyaching over no apologies. 

This is the same Pudgy who, along with his cohort Rush Limbaugh, used to heap scorn on President Obama for embarking on worldwide Apology Tours.

I am sympathetic to difficulties he has encountered. But it doesn’t justify a lifelong Character Assassination Tour of people who even he acknowledges are in the main good and honorable men. (Or is that the local elders he says that of?) And, surely, his own hardheadedness and inflexibility has had something to do with it.

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28 minutes ago, TrueTomHarley said:

And, surely, his own hardheadedness and inflexibility has had something to do with it.

I would like to think that I knew the price I would have to pay, (and I did, for 60 years) in advance, and that never caving in is one reason the Brotherhood has been partially freed from pervasive petty tyranny that was the complete OPPOSITE of being scripturally based.

I hope this is just the beginning of much needed reform.

There is no substitute for Victory!

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2 hours ago, Pudgy said:

I would like to think that I knew the price I would have to pay, (and I did, for 60 years) in advance, and that never caving in is one reason the Brotherhood has been partially freed from pervasive petty tyranny that was the complete OPPOSITE of being scripturally based. I hope this is just the beginning of much needed reform.

Yeah. Not a bad answer—though you didn’t exactly suffer in silence like our Lord.

Occasionally I muse that my blog may also be read by someone who matters and goes on to make some great change on its account.

It may have just happened. My blog is all my personal writing. It has modest traffic. I’m happy with 70- 100 hits a day, which is more or less average.  In a recent 2-day period, however, it logged over 60,000 hits.

I was unsure what to make of this—or even it was a good thing. What gives?

Then I figured it out. It was @Many Miles, no doubt, downloading everything so that he could ponder over the weekend and realize the error of his ways.

If only it is followed up by an equal number of orders for my books, which are advertised with each post . . . 

https://www.tomsheepandgoats.com

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Wearing a beard is allowed. But in order for the beard to grow and be able to be shaped nicely, it takes time. Meanwhile, the man will look unshaven and untidy, as if he has neglected his appearance. How will it be viewed in the congregation? How will your wife, children, family and friends view it?

The cult's decisions generate further debates and bring unrest among the members. It has already started. And again JWs will ask to be given "answers and instructions". Indeed, a parody.

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Who is dividing the JWs? This is done by GB members.

A GB member, like Geoffrey Jackson, says: JWs know for themselves by reading their own Bibles if the GB instructions are wrong and decide that GB is giving bad instructions and will not obey them.

Another GB member, like Steven Lett, says: You must not think and feel that you were right when you followed the advice and instruction of my colleague Geoffrey Jackson who allowed you to object and express your dissatisfaction with the instructions that were wrong.

 

 

 

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