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If “appointed by holy spirit“ is supposed to be some sort of “foolproof” process, how could Paul have said (Acts 20:30) to first-century elders, “from among you yourselves men will rise and speak twis

Some jw's need to heed this advice when it comes to the catholic church. Scars are the battle wounds that prove we are still alive.

That being said, I can’t believe all the deceit and duplicity that goes on here. Aliases, counter-aliases—it’s enough to make a nice guy like me swear like a trooper. Which, of course, I would never d

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On 11/16/2021 at 10:55 AM, Srecko Sostar said:

@Equivocation Our friend SM introduced Capitalism and Communism into this topic :)) Don't ask me.

I only brought up Communisms and Marxism only, hence CCP. You brought up Capitalisms and trying to equate it to the latter.

This is my comment, and look at yours below

 

That being said, it was pretty ignorant on your part to confuse these factions.

Marxism, Capitalism, Communism, Socialism are vastly different. Plus it didn't make sense for you to even bring up Capitalisms because of Taxation.

Communism positions itself in opposition to liberal democracy and capitalism, as with Capitalism, it does this to Communism. Clearly you trying to make it seem as both are the same, is incorrect.

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On 11/21/2021 at 5:48 AM, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

Just watching MSN news online is depressingly upsetting. So many countries, so many promlems, so much suffering and death. Yes it proves that we need God / Christ to interviene soon. 

MSN.... Don't be a sheep to the MSM, Big Tech Solider. If they get you in your feelings, than you already lost.

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On 11/15/2021 at 8:50 PM, Equivocation said:

@Space Merchant Therefore, learning and having knowledge is a very powerful thing (knowing his half the battle). But thanks for pointing that out. Capitalism and Marxism are technically opposites from each other, and I don’t know why Srecko brought it up, but you know, Srecko. Even here in School, both these things are often talked about, mentioned in some classes, especially with the current state of things in the United States, as well as China and elsewhere.

Because he speaks without knowing. He Glasglow'd himself with that one.

On 11/15/2021 at 8:50 PM, Equivocation said:

Also, who is Hasan Piker? You compared @Patiently waiting for Truth to this person to, and now you mention him again when you talked about Capitalisms. I do not know Left vs Right groups, so I do not know these leaders or stars some people follow.

I had good reason to compared @Patiently waiting for Truthto Piker, and that comparison is with merit. Aside from that, Hasan Piker is a legitimate Leftist who is a glorified Capitalist. As of last year, him and another person, Neeko the Boomer Girl, were called out for their favoritism and allegiance to Capitalisms. Hasan is also a Socialist, mainly due to the biggest capital move he made back in early 2021.

Such people are not only rival to the Right, but they, indirectly are somewhat of an enemy to independent Journalist and Truthers. And a chuck of their revenue comes from lost men and small children, at the same time, these people plague the youth with nonsense and false ideas on money and the like.

The irony is I have been debating some of their followers for the past 2 weeks, mainly Hasan's followers.

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On 11/15/2021 at 8:50 PM, Equivocation said:

Como señaló @Space Merchant, los gobiernos superiores, incluidas las personas afiliadas al comunismo, buscan destruir o arruinar a cualquiera o cualquier cosa que se considere una oposición a ellos. Esto nos lleva a los testigos de Jehová, a nosotros, mantenemos la neutralidad, no apoyamos a los gobiernos ni tomamos partido político. Para crédito de @Space Merchant, tampoco somos marxistas ni nada equivalente a eso, y no estoy seguro de por qué @Srecko Sostar mencionó el capitalismo porque la gente está al tanto de la historia con eso frente al marxismo y el comunismo, así que tenga cuidado de no dejarse engañar por eso. El comunismo requiere que un individuo apoye la visión del gobierno del régimen, y solo eso, así puedo ver por qué @Space Merchant mer mencionó a China y por qué @Melinda Millsy @TrueTomHarley dieron ejemplo de personas en la congregación que no tienen buenas intenciones.

Essentially @Isabella's reaction would be obvious because some people do not know how such governments work, mainly the nefarious things they do. In regards to that Article she linked, some events over a few years fit the same M.O. of patterns, infiltrators do not attempt to hold religious office, and if they did, it would be last resort. Essentially if that were true, if the push to execute an Agenda took place, JWs in that country would have ceased a long time ago around that time.

Communism is a direct opposition to one's faith, mainly if that faith maintains a neutral state to the paradigm, the agendas, and political goals, this is why some will even lie in order to get the unaware to side with them should the move be successful. Your faith group has an example, a few actually, Germany and as of recently, Russia, perhaps China since we are talking about communism.

That being said, Gov't agendas, I have hatred for, as is with those who are like Neeko and Hasan.

As pointed out before, there is a ticking timer for everyone, even you and others on this forum in regards to the targeted places, concerning them.

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5 minutes ago, Matthew9969 said:

I quit watching cable news networks 3 years ago, and have had a much more positive demeanor for doing so.

Sadly some who still watch them without trying to find truth themselves. I am literally at war with Leftist right now because they themselves have been watching MSM, reading the NYT times and never once think to look into the facts, the truth itself. This is why as of right now, their misguidedness and them eating and professing misinformation spawned the riots taking place after a trial.

When it comes to anything, even various things, even discussed here, the MSM will speak in good terms of those that commit ill action, but should someone else does it, they are ready to run people into the mud.

The biggest absurdity in all of MSM is CNN, of which we Truthers call it the Communism News Network. 

That being said, MSN is among the few who seek a cultural and a race war among the people.

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32 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

I only brought up Communisms and Marxism only, hence CCP. You brought up Capitalisms and trying to equate it to the latter.

What is capitalism without communism, and vice versa? Both ideologies need their own enemy. And they found it in the other one.
Some say that Jesus was the “first communist” because he aspired to general equality (“you are all brothers”) and the abolition of all ideologies that oppress the weaker. 

As i understand "christian ideology", presented by WTJWorg and JW elders, they think how both ideologies, communism and capitalism are enemies of God and True Christianity aka JW members. So, in their eyes they are equal. 

Again, both ideologies need own enemy to feed their "bellies" and to seduce people. Similar as with religions. 

 

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16 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

What is capitalism without communism, and vice versa? Both ideologies need their own enemy. And they found it in the other one.

You are still lost on something of which you do not know much about.

Hence when Taxation was coined when you mentioned Capitalisms, you quickly motioned @Equivocationto me instead. Srecko, the question concerning Taxation was quite easy.

16 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Some say that Jesus was the “first communist” because he aspired to general equality (“you are all brothers”) and the abolition of all ideologies that oppress the weaker. 

And here we see you got yourself tangled in Communisms view of the Christ. Even you, a former JW, should be critically careful here. Other than that, the Gorbachev or Soc view of Jesus in this regard is portrayed in a way to shift people from actual Christology concerning the Christ.

16 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

As i understand "christian ideology", presented by WTJWorg and JW elders, they think how both ideologies, communism and capitalism are enemies of God and True Christianity aka JW members. So, in their eyes they are equal. 

Because both those things are not just an enemy to God, but the core Christian Faith itself. Both those things are not equal as explained to you about a week ago, and even recently. As far as I know, anyone outside of the MSC is a big target for the latter, JWs are not MSC. This is quite obvious because what some ExJWs usually call them without knowing the history, likewise with any of Islam or Judaism outside of the mainstream.

16 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Again, both ideologies need own enemy to feed their "bellies" and to seduce people. Similar as with religions. 

More so intimidation instead of Seduction. The latter effects primarily MSC since they embrace government, even picking a side, as is with a strong arm upholding Democracy.

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6 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

Srecko, the question concerning Taxation was quite easy.

The first record of organized taxation comes from Egypt around 3000 B.C., and is mentioned in numerous historical sources including the Bible. ...(internet source).

Christian ideology/doctrine supports the tax system of the Roman Empire at the time of Jesus and the apostles, as can be seen from biblical quotations.

But, what this have with @ By Isabella's  topic? 

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8 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

Sadly some who still watch them without trying to find truth themselves. I am literally at war with Leftist right now because they themselves have been watching MSM, reading the NYT times and never once think to look into the facts, the truth itself. This is why as of right now, their misguidedness and them eating and professing misinformation spawned the riots taking place after a trial.

When it comes to anything, even various things, even discussed here, the MSM will speak in good terms of those that commit ill action, but should someone else does it, they are ready to run people into the mud.

The biggest absurdity in all of MSM is CNN, of which we Truthers call it the Communism News Network. 

That being said, MSN is among the few who seek a cultural and a race war among the people.

I'll take that to mind. These days I listen to radio, due to my job. I lean towards Blaze network and The Daily Wire. I also often take a peek at politifact. I used to be a Fox News fan until I heard this...

 

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