Memorial 2020 during covid-19 lockdown

[Anna]

16 hours ago, Arauna said:

Wrong! Not all anointed males are elders...... just as in first century not all were elders.

I will have to disagree with you there for the simple reason that typically all qualified men become elders, eventually, and I am sure you would agree that most males who claim to be anointed naturally meet those qualifications. That is what my reasoning was based on. Obviously there might be some who do not want to be elders for whatever reason. In the first century everyone was anointed, but as you say, not all were elders, if they were, then every single male would be an elder, but as the apostle Paul points out, there were various "callings". 

[Anna]

22 hours ago, 4Jah2me said:

And by the way everybody, including the anointed, including the GB, are domestics."

I totally disagree with this comment of yours. Show me proof from scripture, not from your GB / CCJW.

Domestics are all who belong to Jesus as the master and all who are fed by him. So since Jesus is the master, then all of Jesus's slaves are domestics.

 “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? Matthew 24:45

The domestics include the anointed and the slave, because the slave is spoken of as beating his fellow slaves (domestics):  

“But if ever that evil slave says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying, and he starts to beat his fellow slaves Matthew 24:48,49 

 

[Anna]

23 hours ago, 4Jah2me said:

It is an expression of deep gratitude for the ransom, remembering on that night what Jesus did for us" 

Um, I'm happily married and i don't only remember my wife on my wedding anniversary.  Our gratitude for Christ's ransom should be every day, not just once a year. 

Of course. I don't think anybody was questioning that.

 

[Patiently waiting for Truth]

2 hours ago, Anna said:

Domestics are all who belong to Jesus as the master and all who are fed by him. So since Jesus is the master, then all of Jesus's slaves are domestics.

 “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? Matthew 24:45

The domestics include the anointed and the slave, because the slave is spoken of as beating his fellow slaves (domestics):  

“But if ever that evil slave says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying, and he starts to beat his fellow slaves Matthew 24:48,49 

 

Once again I totally disagree with you. 

But I've given proof from scripture and I'm not going to cast pearls before swine as the scriptures advise it is not good. 

[Anna]

3 hours ago, 4Jah2me said:

I've given proof from scripture

Where do you think my proof was from? 😃

[Arauna]

15 hours ago, Anna said:

will have to disagree with you

I knew an anointed brother in Jacksonville who stepped down shortly after being appointed because he said his large family and his other obligations to Jehovah were more important.  

Not all in first century qualified for being an elder. The scripture in Titus clearly indicates that one cannot use a new brother.  So maybe after a time every man who is steadfast will eventually qualify BUT it does not mean that they do not have a choice in the matter.

[Patiently waiting for Truth]

15 hours ago, Anna said:

Where do you think my proof was from? 😃

From your GB's viewpoint of scripture. 

 

[Anna]

7 hours ago, 4Jah2me said:

From your GB's viewpoint of scripture. 

Actually no. Go and re-read those scriptures again, carefully.

[Patiently waiting for Truth]

8 hours ago, Anna said:

Actually no. Go and re-read those scriptures again, carefully.

I have read them properly many times and from an unbiased viewpoint. 

I am free from GB / CCJW doctrine so i am able to see clearly. Whereas you and Arauna and others are tied to GB / Org interpretations. It must be terrible for your conscience if you find real truth because it would contradict the men you follow. 

Anna, we will just have to both have a Christian attitude and agree to differ. Have a good day. 

 

[Arauna]

1 hour ago, 4Jah2me said:

so i am able to see clearly. 

Those who are not slaves of jehovah are slaves to their own desires and viewpoints.  It explains a lot..... you think you are independent but in actual fact a slave to yourself.  You did not get along with other JWs, not because of doctrine but because of personality traits..... a combative attitude.

[Patiently waiting for Truth]

4 hours ago, Arauna said:

Those who are not slaves of jehovah are slaves to their own desires and viewpoints.  It explains a lot..... you think you are independent but in actual fact a slave to yourself.  You did not get along with other JWs, not because of doctrine but because of personality traits..... a combative attitude.

There you go again @Arauna mixing up Yahweh with the GB / CCJW. 

And once again, when you have pretended to be a pleasant person, you go making accusation of me. 

And you pretend to have a Christian based conscience and attitude. Do you not see how you follow your GB in your pretending to know things that you do not know, and making things up as you go along.. 

It is because I am a slave of God through Christ that i am no longer attending the CCJW meetings. It is because I have a Bible trained conscience that I cannot allow myself to be part of the immoral and dishonest organisations, both the Watchtower and the CCJW.  

Some prefer to sit on the fence but i could not do that. I know of people that would love to leave the CCJW, but they could not bear to be parted from friends and family. Some older people have nothing else but the congregation and would be totally alone without it. 

As for my personality, I got on well with the other congregants, we did ministry together regularly, we had social gatherings, it was the Elders that lord it over the congregation that were a problem, but a problem to themselves not to me. I've always known that i answer to God through Christ, not to the Elders of the CCJW. 

 

[Arauna]

13 hours ago, 4Jah2me said:

pretended

I don't pretend.  I am what I am....... and I repeat.... you are a slave to your own desires and viewpoints and always combative......