Watchtower and "Lobbying" related to the doctrine of "Christian Neutrality"

[Srecko Sostar]

Throughout its history, WTJWorg has worked for social/religious/political change in various parts of the world in several ways:

-With their activity, they do not agree to obey the authorities when they were forbidden to do some religious activity (eg preaching).

-Then through actively not doing things that the governments asks for (eg military service or voting in elections).

-Furthermore, JWs have actively influenced the governments through various lawsuits until today.

-What is less known and unnoticed or even unknown to the general and especially JW public is the influence of the WTJWorg Corporation through specific actions to influence certain parts of the governments. This is called "lobbying" in modern parlance.

Watch an interesting and instructive video covering a rather long period of WTJWorg history in which representatives of WTJWorg are mentioned whose actions before the authorities are rightly linked to "lobbying".

 

 

 

[Pudgy]

A “red arrow downvote” without a reasonable, rational counterpoint explanation only serves to advertise “cult-think”.

For years the WTB&TS used to defend it’s actions successfully with a booklet “Defending and Legally Establishing the Good News”.

”Downvoting” what are prima facia hard facts ONLY serves to advertise the downvoters’ agenda driven limited reasoning ability.

Sort of like someone from Poland “downvoting” that during WWII they they fought Nazi Tanks with horse calvary.

It happened!

 

[Pudgy]

What a person often fails to realize is that ALL human activity with more than three people is political!.

[TrueTomHarley]

“Why do you Jehovah’s Witnesses always have to say that conditions are getting worse? What does that belief do for you?”

It helps me to explain why the Doomsday Clock is set at 90 seconds to midnight and not 10:30 AM.

[Pudgy]

26 minutes ago, TrueTomHarley said:

“Why do you Jehovah’s Witnesses always have to say that conditions are getting worse? What does that belief do for you?”

It helps me to explain why the Doomsday Clock is set at 90 seconds to midnight and not 10:30 AM.

DOOMSDAY is when as individuals we die.

95% of all life on Earth being destroyed is a statistic.

…. it has already happened twice before …..

It’s a continual process. 

The “Doomsday Clock” is the philosophical and  political expression of an agenda driven committee.

Philosophically, when we as individuals die … the Universe ceases to exist.

 

[Pudgy]

POLITICS:

Two Blue Tic Coon Dogs, and a Raccoon voting on what to have for lunch. 

[Srecko Sostar]

5 hours ago, Pudgy said:

DOOMSDAY

Prehistoric animals (dinosaurs and the like) experienced their end of the world, but that did not worry anyone (neither then nor now) because Adam and Eve had not yet lived, sinned and been thrown out of Paradise.

The planet experienced its ends through processes of transformation so that life would be possible at all. Thus, the various forms of life that existed then arose and disappeared. And who cares about that today?

Now, if our skin is in question, then it is really worrying that it will be some new end of the world. And this should be preached to everyone through global preaching. Imagine! In a way, this JW global campaign of "lobbying" for the Kingdom that will be the means of selective destruction of life on planet Earth "fits in" with the foreordained processes that concern not only this planet but the entire galaxy.

[Pudgy]

19 minutes ago, Fausto Hoover said:

The poster started off on the wrong foot with an inaccurately worded sentence. How dare the poster make such a bold suggestion based on a false statement? In what way could a downvote appear irrational to a thoughtful Christian? Apostates and the disfellowshipped may indeed speak a distinct language. Where does (Political) fit into the picture?

Translated:

I don’t LIKE IT because you dont agree with my agenda driven world view.

That is why I am indignant, and could not give any SPECIFIC examples.

[Pudgy]

46 minutes ago, Fausto Hoover said:

The undeniable truth is that Jehovah's Witnesses are witnessing a steady decline in the conditions of our world with each passing day. I firmly believe that Christ made reference to that fact. Hence, it is not rocket science, but apostates have a tendency to distort this reality.

Reality?

You wanna talk about REALITY?

The REALITY is that we are now living in the best times that have ever existed in the history of human experience …. and with one simple observation can prove it.

Other than RIGHT HERE AND RIGHT NOW, Fausto Hoover, for the general welfare of all people on Earth, WHEN was there a better time?

[Srecko Sostar]

It might be useful for JWs to explain how "lobbying" of any kind by WTJWorg representatives to the authorities of a country can be explained through the JW theology doctrine called "Christian neutrality".

Given that JWs are against any kind of "social" engagement (activity) through participation in the existing systems of a country, even those of a humanitarian nature, and that they forbid JWs to hold any political office, because that would mean that they are not "neutral", then it becomes doubtful whether they can and are allowed to have contacts with people who hold state and political functions with the intention of "imparting" more favorable treatment for the WTJWorg organization and JW members?

It is one thing to "appeal to the law and justice" before the courts because we believe that others have damaged us, and the other is to use various means and methods to influence individuals and institutions that are political in nature and therefore, according to JW belief, part of the "satanic system". Is cooperation of this kind with the "enemies of God" really "Christian neutrality"? Is even seeking the help from  "secular courts," which again according to WTJWorg doctrine is an indivisible part of the "satanic system," to administer justice to JW followers, a contradiction in JW teaching and belief?

While at the same time labeling every religion, politics, and commerce of this world as part of the "satanic system" that is "soon to be destroyed at Armageddon," and on the other hand, using  time, strength, and means to gain a favorable position from these "worldly people" for WTJWorg, which inevitably involves a certain kind and measure of "friendship with the world", aren't JWs in fact in conflict with declarations in their own theology?

[Pudgy]

it is really quite simple to be politically neutral towards interactions with people and Nations…… Just change the definitions of the words.

Comedian Steve Martin once said, if you teach children the wrong definitions of words, in the first grade when a child wants to go to the restroom, he can raise his hand to ask the teacher’s permission with  “… can I mumble face dog to the banana patch?”

[Srecko Sostar]

6 minutes ago, Pudgy said:

Reality?

You wanna talk about REALITY?

The REALITY is that we are now living in the best times that have ever existed in the history of human experience …. and with one simple observation can prove it.

Other than RIGHT HERE AND RIGHT NOW, Fausto Hoover, for the general welfare of all people on Earth, WHEN was there a better time?

WTJWorg also lives in the best possible time for its activities. They will only do better in the NW. 

So the JW global campaign that humanity is in crisis would mean that non-JWs are in crisis. The only thing that remains to be seen is how the prophecy that everyone will hate JWs is to be fulfilled. Because JWs claim that now the world hates them (this hatred towards JWs has been going on for decades or towards the NT since the 1st century) and they (JW) despite such "fact an claim" are doing so well in terms of the number of members and number of branches, the number of KH and preaching and the like. Can the world hate them more than today in the "last day of the last days"?