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How do you prove from the Bible that 1935 was the year for the selection to heaven stopped due to being filled?

 

What is the difference between a Catholic appealing to "what the organization tells him" about December 25 being the date of Jesus' birthday and a Jw' appealing to "what the organization tells him" about the date 1935? Is it not hypocritical when you chide the "poor deluded Catholic" that his faith cannot find a Bible passage to support it, when the same goes for you and 1935?
 

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That's not exactly accurate. It is true that we didn't initially quote the Bible as the the "basis" and that's because it was considered to be a direct "revelation" or "flash of light" -- sometimes ca

Right about what? Each teaching has to be judged on its scriptural and evidentiary merits ... or otherwise. And who knows what the org will be teaching in 5 years time!

Really? So where did they get the idea from? How did they come to the 'logical conclusion' that 1935 was when the heavenly calling ended?   

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4 hours ago, Jesus.defender said:

How do you prove from the Bible that 1935 was the year for the selection to heaven stopped due to being filled?

I gave a response the last time you asked this same question. See link below.

 

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7 minutes ago, Ann O'Maly said:

I gave a response the last time you asked this same question. See link below.

 

No, you didnt. you just pointed to a robotic watchtower statement.

 

they DID set this date, now they say they cant set it. duh! they already set it!

 

The doctrine introduced by Judge Joseph Rutherford, second President of the Watchtower said from 1935 onward, “At the end of May of that year a five-day convention of Jehovah’s Christian Witnesses was in session... the president of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society discussed the subject of 'the great multitude, 'spoken of in Revelation 7.9-17, Authorized Version. He made it clear that the 'multitude' was no spiritual or spirit begotten class, would not attain the angelic nature in heaven so as to assist the 144,000 joint heirs with Christ. It was a distinctly an earthly class with hope of endless perfect human life in the earthly paradise under Christ's kingdom” (Holy Spirit, 1976, p. 156)

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3 minutes ago, Jesus.defender said:

No, you didnt. you just pointed to a robotic watchtower statement.

... which said that they dropped that understanding.

JWs no longer believe that 1935 is the cut-off point for the heavenly calling. You might as well ask how JWs can prove from the Bible that Jesus' invisible return occurred in 1874 or that organ transplants are wrong or that Jehovah's throne is near Alcyone.

Sheesh. 

The historical doctrinal reasons for Rutherford choosing the 1935 date are interesting, however. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Ann O'Maly said:

... which said that they dropped that understanding.

JWs no longer believe that 1935 is the cut-off point for the heavenly calling. You might as well ask how JWs can prove from the Bible that Jesus' invisible return occurred in 1874 or that organ transplants are wrong or that Jehovah's throne is near Alcyone.

Sheesh. 

The historical doctrinal reasons for Rutherford choosing the 1935 date are interesting, however. 

 

But they DID teach it as a prophecy.

 

So, the big question is, if they have been wrong in the past, how do you know they are right now?

 

How do you know that in 5 years time, they wont say that John 1:1 actually DOES read what Christians have ALWAYS said it reads?

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2 hours ago, Jesus.defender said:

So, the big question is, if they have been wrong in the past, how do you know they are right now?

Right about what? Each teaching has to be judged on its scriptural and evidentiary merits ... or otherwise. And who knows what the org will be teaching in 5 years time!

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On 5/25/2016 at 1:35 PM, Jesus.defender said:

How do you prove from the Bible that 1935 was the year for the selection to heaven stopped due to being filled?

I think there's something wrong about the question in the first place. 

JWs never said that the year 1935 was pointed out in the bible.  Got any proof to that?  

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7 hours ago, Manuel Boyet Enicola said:

JWs never said that the year 1935 was pointed out in the bible.  Got any proof to that?

You're late to this party. Here's a recap. For a long time, JWs taught that 1935 was the year the door to the heavenly calling closed. In 2007, the Org changed its mind and said that the door to the heavenly calling seems to be open still. Numbers of partakers kept going up every year so the '1935 door closed' idea was no longer tenable - evidently there had to be a rethink. Check your WT CD-ROM.

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22 hours ago, Manuel Boyet Enicola said:

I think there's something wrong about the question in the first place. 

JWs never said that the year 1935 was pointed out in the bible.  Got any proof to that?  

I sure do have proof. i think it is VERY important to be able to back up what you say.

 

"Logically, the calling of the little flock would draw to a close when the number was nearing completion, and the evidence is that the general gathering of these specially blessed ones ended in 1935."Watchtower 1995 Feb 15 p.19

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4 hours ago, Jesus.defender said:

I sure do have proof. i think it is VERY important to be able to back up what you say.

 

"Logically, the calling of the little flock would draw to a close when the number was nearing completion, and the evidence is that the general gathering of these specially blessed ones ended in 1935."Watchtower 1995 Feb 15 p.19

I do not know if the English you use is the same English I understand, but the quote simply said that it was a logical conclusion as to when the heavenly calling ended.  The Bible was never quoted as the "source" of the year 1935. It was simply "arrived at", in the same way Moses "supposed" (assumed, NLV) it was time for him to liberate Israel but was 40 years early in time.....

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19 hours ago, Ann O'Maly said:

You're late to this party. Here's a recap. For a long time, JWs taught that 1935 was the year the door to the heavenly calling closed. In 2007, the Org changed its mind and said that the door to the heavenly calling seems to be open still. Numbers of partakers kept going up every year so the '1935 door closed' idea was no longer tenable - evidently there had to be a rethink. Check your WT CD-ROM.

You're correct.  But JWs never quoted the Bible as "basis" for the year 1935, hence the question itself is, say, "defective".  Pardon me, I couldn't think of a more appropriate term....

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