Norwegian court: Disfellowshipping was against the law

[Jack Ryan]

A Norwegian JW woman, who was sexually abused, was disfellowshipped for fornication. The woman first appealed inside the organization - without success. Feeling injustice, she then decided to sue Jehovah's Witnesses. The court decided last month that the disfellowshipping was against the Norwegian law and must be canceled. The court also ordered the local Jehovah's Witness organization to pay 100 000 NOK to the woman.

Here is the story, in a Norwegian newspaper.

[Arauna]

A "woman" (not a teenager) who repeatedly was abused by someone outside the congregation? 

Sounds fishy - don't you think?

Any case - we will see more and more of these type of cases as the post modern philosophy (which erodes all sense of morality) becomes the world doctrine.  All barriers to immorality will be removed and the law will be used as a weapon. Mischief by law....

I hope she enjoys her krone.... and the blow she gave the JWs.  In the end she will answer to the highest authority in the universe.   If she was humble she would have come back the way all other truly repentant) people come back...... 

The manipulation must have been really severe for her  to succumb  to the abuse more than once  and then she became a "victim" again when her victimhood was not accepted .  I wonder at what stage of the abuse this secret was revealed and by whom?

The victimhood of the post modern philosophy is really as excuse for anyone to do as they please. 

[Srecko Sostar]

8 hours ago, Arauna said:

A "woman" (not a teenager) who repeatedly was abused by someone outside the congregation?

Google Translation:

According to the woman, during a meeting with two of the elders in the congregation, she was informed that she would be excluded because of fornication. She thinks the reaction came after she said she had been sexually abused by a person outside the church.

Article not say that she told: Repeatedly abused.

Next what i would ask: Why she went to elders and told them about abuse?  Perhaps because elders are "Shepherds" who will help? Did she went to police too?

[Anna]

It seems that the elders did not believe the woman when she said she was "abused". We don't know the whole story, we don't know the woman. I can think of a number of situations which may have incurred the decision to disfellowship. No one gets disfellowshipped for being sexually abused. (Especially not nowadays). 

I wonder if she went to the police to report the abuse. The article does not mention if she did.

 

[Anna]

9 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Why she went to elders and told them about abuse?  Perhaps because elders are "Shepherds" who will help? Did she went to police too?

That's what I wondered too. The whole story seems a little odd....

If this was someone outside the congregation, you would have thought she would feel very free to go to the police

[Shiwiii]

On 8/25/2019 at 3:07 PM, Jack Ryan said:

The court decided last month that the disfellowshipping was against the Norwegian law and must be canceled.

I wonder what that will do?

Will the wt abide by the law?

Will the wt appeal? 

Will Norway become a reproof only region? 

[Arauna]

On 8/27/2019 at 10:54 AM, Srecko Sostar said:

reaction came after she said she had been sexually abused by a person outside the church.

Consensual sex and then when you are found out you claim abuse?   ….   who ever posted this story and who believes it,  is terribly naïve.

 

On 8/27/2019 at 8:23 PM, Anna said:

If this was someone outside the congregation, you would have thought she would feel very free to go to the police

Fishy - very fishy...… her attitude in taking them to court proves she was not  innocent  because she wants revenge.  She got it.  Now we will see if she is ever repentant.   Does not seem she is repentant of her behavior though.... 

[Srecko Sostar]

1 hour ago, Arauna said:

Consensual sex and then when you are found out you claim abuse?

Perhaps yes, perhaps no. It seems how you and elders have suspicion that she was sincere. 

Maybe elders would be do better to ask police about it before making decision that she is "harlot" or "adulteress".

[Arauna]

Just now, Srecko Sostar said:

It seems how you and elders have suspicion that she was sincere. 

That means you are very gullible to believe this story.  They usually do not  disfellowship if someone goes to ask advice of elders in such cases and tell the truth. I do not know the details of this story but it seems she was discovered by other means and was not honest and upfront. How do you work with someone like that? ..... and then she took revenge by going to court...... she really sounds very repentant!   Lol! 

[Patiently waiting for Truth]

And you @Arauna sound very bitter and judgemental 

[Arauna]

17 hours ago, 4Jah2me said:

sound very bitter and judgemental 

Only to those who hate Jehovah and his people

[Patiently waiting for Truth]

@Arauna 

3 hours ago, Arauna said:

Only to those who hate Jehovah and his people

Oh dear, you still get Almighty God and the Org mixed up don't you ? 

Almighty God can be loved and served without the one loving being a JW.  And you use the word hate too freely IMO. 

I have no hate for anyone but i do have deep dislike for anyone deliberately misleading people.