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On 5/3/2019 at 8:13 PM, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

Since there appears to me to be nothing new here, I will not be watching the previous 9 videos, unless there are  good reasons to, and there does not appear to be any.

I won't watch the present nor the previous nine.  I agree there is nothing here.  

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On 5/5/2019 at 9:01 AM, JOHN BUTLER said:

Have you ever read Billy the Kid's comments, saying that I need medical attention ?  That's ok is it ? 

 

On 5/5/2019 at 9:52 AM, JW Insider said:

No it's not OK. I didn't happen to see that one, but I don't doubt you. I've seen similar from him. If you thought that what he said was unnecessarily harsh and judgmental, I hope you or someone else said something. Even if he would have felt like "elders" were trying to dominate him, he should know that such statements are as hurtful as more blatant types of bullying. It's the unnecessarily harsh judgment of the person's motives or state of mind that I think we should avoid.

John, Anna, and JWinsider are a couple. It’s been apparent from the get-go. The fact they distance themselves on that theory is only to fool the public.

However, there are other ways that can be seen with them always defending each other in this forum that makes it clear. Tom can say, I didn’t know that or make a humorous remark. But, their tail is a dead giveaway. Regardless of JWinsider and Anna denying it.

When I said you need meds, I heard that from people here before, like JAMES. However, you won’t see a censure from JWinsider lobbied against James Thomas Rook Jr. I think I have seen a phrase about a blue or red pill somewhere.

So, don’t feel bad when JWinsider tries this bullying nonsense that he, James, Anna, and Tom have been in the past. They have ridiculed people in a subtle and professional grammar stylish way. I think people call it Etiquette. But an insult is an insult regardless, how polite you make it.

So, when JWinsider tries to point it out to me, he and anyone here is no better. That includes you, with your harsh words in the past. So, don’t start crying now.

Therefore, what JWinsider is trying to say, don’t offend my lady, it’s that simple. They can offend and make fun of anybody they want. But no one dare give it back.

Ryan uses profanity in his posts. You don’t see the librarian banning him from this forum. So, I don’t see him banning you for insulting someone. Outsiders can insult all they want. You should feel privileged, not hurt.

You are also correct that JWinsider is a spy. That’s the “insider” part. A Former Bethel member that now uses the same tools you do to argue against the Watchtower. Receives insider information to continue his attacks on the Watchtower, while trying to have people think he is not.

He doesn’t, nor does Anna, and James agrees with the direction the GB are heading. But that’s God’s call to weed out those with faithless hearts. If you understood scripture. You would see how God dealt with his chosen people. So, why argue about that with Anna. There are enough similarities to give her your support as an ex-witness.

Now, the fact that you don’t consider yourself an ex-witness is just semantics in your part. You left the ORG, that’s the bottom line. The fact you have animosity toward 8 men, that doesn’t come close to being Christian, regardless of what you tell yourself. The same goes for the majority here.

Now, does JWinsider have special privileges? Yes! Yes! He does, regardless of what he tells the public. I believe there was a time when Allen Smith was removed over and over again for the same reason you have NOT been. So, consider it a plus that these people fear the truth, not the words of opposers.

Therefore, don’t bite the hand that feeds you. That’s the encouragement JWinsider is attempting to convey. Your both are on the same side. Remember that and don’t feel hurt. 😉

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2 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

Anna, and JWinsider are a couple.

Yikes.

2 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

But, their tail is a dead giveaway.

Yikes, again.

2 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

When I said you need meds, I heard that from people here before, like JAMES. However, you won’t see a censure from JWinsider lobbied against James Thomas Rook Jr.

This is pretty much correct as I remember it, too. It was JTR who made fun of you (while you were using a different name). It was about "meds" at least once, and he also made fun of you on another occasion in a similar vein. You called him out on it at the time, so I didn't see a need to. You actually called him out on it a second time a few months later and JTR denied that he had ever said what he actually had said. But again, you were already calling him out on it.

I called out John on his "drunk" reference, just as a reminder that these things sometimes escalate and someone ends up getting disciplined and then there are hurt feelings for a long time to come. And what's worse is that sometimes the escalations can get out of hand and people leave or get locked out of the forum. I hate to see such things.

But as I think about it, I was wrong to mention anything to John. It wasn't my place. And perhaps it was even a bit sexist of me to step in for Anna as if she couldn't respond for herself. As you say, it's not like I try to step in for every little thing. Even when you say things I don't like about me personally, I let about 90 percent of them go without mentioning anything. (In fact, when I tried to respond to about 30 percent of your claims in a recent thread, it was John who stepped in to censure both of us for unchristianlike fighting.)

So, @JOHN BUTLER I would like to apologize for involving myself in an argument that was not for me, in the first place. I have my own prejudices like everyone else, perhaps more than you. Some person's comments I hardly ever even read. So I could never be a fair moderator anyway.

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What you and Anna do in your personal lives is of no consequence to me. If you are married to other people and are having an internet love affair, it’s up to both of you, God, and the Elders in your respective KH’s. 2 Timothy 2:22 Even an insinuation can be applied.

If you are referring what you did to AllenSmith34. That’s up to you and that person. If you made fun of or insulted that person back then and constantly denied, denied, denied, that’s your conscience not mind.

If you are referring to the last sentiment Anna made about Allensmith34 being jealous because she liked you better or something like that. I can’t remember the verbatim before he was {“deleted”? Once again, that’s on both of you, God and eventually a body of elders to consider. Being a Christian sets our heart to make every attempt to be free from sin.

Does that mean only in a physical sense, NO! It also applies to our mental state. If you’re able to apologize to an opposer, why haven’t you been able to apologize to a faithful member that sees your errors? That to me is self-serving if ever I read it.

Bear in mind, regardless of what you believe that I am or not, and regardless if you think you personally insulted my life giver or not, not too long ago, is another example of your hypocrisy.

The good thing. AllenSmith34 accepted my email, brought me up to speed on many things. If you haven’t noticed, his online as AllenSmith35. His original alias is blocked as in use.  Therefore, if you think I’m this person, I’m honored.

I'm honored to interject the truth whenever possible. If that means you people consider me AllenSmith, then I will be AllenSmith until this person steps up to the take reins.

 

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On 5/3/2019 at 8:13 PM, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

How about a quick synopsis?

Don't think you will be getting any of that. Not even a refund on lost time. Aside from that, such videos are common whereas any can said something word of mouth and a flock of people will automatically believe it because they share the same disdain for someone or something.

There is stuff out there that tend to like us Unitarians to lizards or gov't sleeper agents or something weird. Non religiously, there is videos and terms deemed outlandish.

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My goodness topic wars. (A bit like Robot Wars only funnier) 

We we are all totally off topic of course and we all have our own opinions.

@BillyTheKid46 I honestly don't know who is a Witness and who is an ex-Witness, or who was never a Witness at all

My opinion was that @JW Insider is still a Witness but working for both sides, a bit like Judas did. My feelings are that he/she thinks the JW Org as a whole has the 'truth' but that maybe the GB are going off track. 

As for @Anna , I'm totally confused. I thought she, I presume she is a she, was a Witness as I thought she wrote in the present time about her kingdom hall and elders. 

And you Billy, even you confuse me. Sometimes I think you are a Witness and other times I think you are a religious person but not a Witness.

Hence, everyone, I tell you this, once again. When I upvote or downvote or make reference to a comment, it is ONLY about that ONE comment.  One reason for that is I have a bad memory and cannot remember ten comments back, and a second reason is that a lot of the time,such as now, we are totally off topic anyway, so we cannot be commenting on the actual topic heading.

I do wish people would be their real selves, real names, real photos, etc. It would make my life so much easier. 

Good morning From me in Devon England at 9.30am. I am not a robot :) :) :) 

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2 hours ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

My opinion was that @JW Insider is still a Witness but working for both sides, a bit like Judas did. My feelings are that he/she thinks the JW Org as a whole has the 'truth' but that maybe the GB are going off track.

For what it's worth, my opinion is that @JW Insider works for both sides in a different sense. I like the way Paul put it:

  • (1 Corinthians 9:19-23) . . .For though I am free from all people, I have made myself the slave to all, so that I may gain as many people as possible. 20 To the Jews I became as a Jew in order to gain Jews; to those under law I became as under law, though I myself am not under law, in order to gain those under law. 21 To those without law I became as without law, although I am not without law toward God but under law toward Christ, in order to gain those without law. 22 To the weak I became weak, in order to gain the weak. I have become all things to people of all sorts, so that I might by all possible means save some. 23 But I do all things for the sake of the good news, in order to share it with others.

Early Christianity started out in the context of Judaism, which had become steeped in end-of-the-world eschatology, and the legalism of the Pharisees. But end-of-the-world eschatology, although dangerous to Christianity on its own (per Jesus), still naturally drew out crowds of people who sighed and groaned over the injustices of their world. They wanted a new heavens and a new earth, and they wanted it as soon as possible.

So early Christians would be mistaken to focus on eschatology, but many good Christians, desirous of a new heavens and new earth, would naturally come to Christianity through this path.

Jesus gave several illustrations showing why focusing on eschatology was so dangerous to true Christianity, and we have the words of Peter to explain how Christians must transform into those who would be the very same type of person they ought to be, whether the parousia came in their own lifetime, or whether it came 1,000 years after their own lifetime.

Another major focus of Jesus' illustrations and teaching was about legalism. Early Christianity was still steeped in Judaism, and still attempted to put Christians under law, even after it was recognized that the Judaic system didn't apply to gentiles.

Jesus' illustration in Matthew 24:45 of the unfaithful servants --who would beat their fellow slaves and try to lord it over them when the master was gone-- is a good illustration reminding us of the dangers of both eschatology AND the dangers of legalism/Pharisaism.

Paul played both sides of Pharisaism/legalism because he was accused of being an apostate from Judaism. So they asked him to pay for some legalistic customary preparations for the persons going with him to the Temple.

  • (Acts 21:20-24) . . .but they said to him: “You see, brother, how many thousands of believers there are among the Jews, and they are all zealous for the Law. 21 But they have heard it rumored about you that you have been teaching all the Jews among the nations an apostasy from Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children or to follow the customary practices. 22 What, then, is to be done about it? They are certainly going to hear that you have arrived. 23 So do what we tell you: We have four men who have put themselves under a vow. 24 Take these men with you and cleanse yourself ceremonially together with them and take care of their expenses, so that they may have their heads shaved. Then everyone will know that there is nothing to the rumors they were told about you, but that you are walking orderly and you are also keeping the Law.

So rather than claiming that the GB have gone off track, I believe they are continually getting more and more ON track. I believe they naturally started partly off-track as would be expected with a very eschatological Russell and a very legalistic Rutherford. But all the while, it was the right kind of heart condition being attracted to and joining into the religion -- a religion with a greater focus on the type of person we ought to be for Jehovah, for ourselves and for one another. This was much like the form of Judaism that naturally made persons fit for transformation into Christianity. Legalistic Judaism was like a tutor leading to Christ. But we must still be transformed.

Paul played both sides in order to win more persons over to Christ. To Jews he became a Jew. To Greeks he became a Greek.

Still the core of the religion itself is one that does perhaps the best job of all religions in fighting the machinations of the Devil: avoiding taking one side over another in politics and war, pointing out the unchristian influences on supposedly Christian traditions, and pointing out the value of Christian morality, and unity of purpose in preaching, meeting together, etc. To me these are the most important things. Granted the Pharisaism still keeps us hanging on to rules (like turning in time so that our right hand and our left can distinguish different types of Christian service, and misuse of the two-witness rule so that mercy and protection of children has often been sacrificed, etc.). And eschatology will keep rearing its head now and then, too.

But these things are getting better over time, getting more on-track, not off-track. Pharisees don't want to be questioned, but we must all take our Christian duty and responsibility very seriously. We must question. We must make sure of all things. And we can only expect more questioning as more persons from all walks of life keep coming into the organization. I find that this forum is still a fair enough place to question and get feedback to help test whether those questions are on the right track.

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11 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

What you and Anna do in your personal lives is of no consequence to me. If you are married to other people and are having an internet love affair

If I didn't know better, I'd say you didn't have a disgusting and filthy mind.

11 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

If you are referring what you did to AllenSmith34. That’s up to you and that person. If you made fun of or insulted that person back then

The reason I stood up for Allen Smith and all your (his) aliases was made very clear. I always defended your right to say what you wanted. Of course, you had to know, and still know, that the content of what you were saying would be open to countering opinions that could contain criticism, facts and evidence. Even if some of the statements made by some of your aliases have been deleted, none of my own were, and this is how you can see that I never insulted you of made fun of you. I never made fun of your grammar either, which is something that some of your aliases kept repeating, and for which you always failed to produce evidence. I admitted that I could not always understand what you were saying. Several people here had the same problem understanding you sometimes, not just me.

11 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

If you’re able to apologize to an opposer, why haven’t you been able to apologize to a faithful member that sees your errors?

I have apologized to you every time you have pointed out an error. This goes for all your aliases. And I'm not saying this because I think you have never pointed out an error. There have been several occasions when you were right and I was wrong. I still apologize for these mistakes, and have corrected them. By the way, I do not ask the same of you. You could say whatever filthy and disgusting things that might come into your mind. I might point them out, and sometimes I might just ignore them, but I won't ask you to apologize. 

11 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

and regardless if you think you personally insulted my life giver or not, not too long ago, is another example of your hypocrisy.

This reminds me of typical corporate-sponsored news outlets, and other forms of propaganda, in which people obviously believe, hypocritically, that if they repeat a falsehood often enough, it will probably have some "sticking" effect.

12 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

If that means you people consider me AllenSmith, then I will be AllenSmith until this person steps up to the take reins.

Thanks. I have already done so from the first day you took up this last alias. But it does make it a bit easier to refer to you again, Allen.

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@JW Insider If the Society / GB and all in 'command' had acted in the way that Paul was saying in that 1 Corinthians 9 19-23 scripture, then the Earthwide Child Abuse / Pedophilia  would never have happened. 

But you seem to see it as just collateral damage, necessary for the 'progress' of the Org. 

Quote "Still the core of the religion itself is one that does perhaps the best job of all religions in fighting the machinations of the Devil: " 

How can that be so when many of the beliefs are based on lies or misinformation and meanings of scripture constantly change to suit the purpose of the GB ? And also as I've mentioned above the Child Abuse.  

And you yourself mentioned the Armageddon threats from the Org. When in honesty they have no real idea. They keep moving the goalposts to suit themselves. 

And of course the shunning we will never agree on but we can agree to differ. 

And I've only just spotted this "and pointing out the value of Christian morality", now that has to be a joke. 

And the "We must question." Really ? and get disfellowshipped for doing so. 

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Well said, JWinsider. All of it is meaningless coming from a conflicted person like you. But you did make a fine point of having Pharisee attributes that go against the gospel of Christ. The good thing, the GB are not conflicted and adhere to scripture with every fiber of their being as they should as mature Christians willing to take the responsibility to shepherd God’s flock. I don’t need to sight scripture since you should be well aware of which ones I would sight, but, once again, well said.

Now try applying those fundamental Christian qualities you sighed to yourself, and you should be on the way to make a believer of yourself. Maybe others that still think of you as a witness when you yourself stopped feeling that way long ago. I believe you mentioned something last year to that effect. The reason you’re still holding on is that no one has asked you to leave.

No one needs to ask when your heart already did. Therefore, you possess the same conditioning John is undergoing. The only difference, He accepts it and it open about it. Will John ever change, only God knows, if he doesn’t that’s his right as a human, and its God’s right to cast judgment. John knows that, and as scripture mentions, it's far worse for those that knew the truth, than those that don’t.

2 Peter 2:21-22

21It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness than to have known it and turned away from the holy commandment passed on to them. 22Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,” and, “A sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud

 

Therefore, John, this is really not off topic. If there was an overseer that said OUR FAITH IS GARBAGE AND NEEDS TO BE TORN DOWN

This is exactly what it means, with the examples given here.

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7 minutes ago, JW Insider said:

If I didn't know better, I'd say you didn't have a disgusting and filthy mind.

You don't, but if the shoe fits. I can only see what can be compared to like a disgusting and filthy mind. I read it every day here. 😉

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@BillyTheKid46   Quote "Therefore, John, this is really not off topic. If there was an overseer that said OUR FAITH IS GARBAGE AND NEEDS TO BE TORN DOWN

This is exactly what it means, with the examples given here."

The overseer does not have that authority from God. Neither does your GB fake 'faithful slave class '

But if you need to worship the GB then so be it.  Putting your faith in MEN is against God and against His written word and you know it.  You will be judged for doing that. 

As for me, yes, I am lost in many ways. I cannot understand why God does not make it more plain to humans which way to worship Him. I won't repeat scripture concerning the anointed as you will totally reject it again.

As for the 2 Peter 2 scripture well we can all have own own opinion of it. I think it refers to the Anointed... Verse 20 is needed to fully get the idea of it all.. 

It is quite easy for those inside and outside of the JW Org to see how those 'taking the lead' act as bullies. The threat of Armageddon is one point. Pretending it is 'so close' when it could be hundreds of years away. 

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40 minutes ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

The overseer does not have that authority from God. Neither does your GB fake 'faithful slave class '

If i may say and put this subject, about "given authority" in this way:

IF some man .... IF he get (or if he imagined how his authority comes from "above") his authority from "above" (in any capacity we can imagine, secular or religious ...) he "has" such authority as far as he practicing what is good for others who are "under" his ruling, leading, governing position. 

Every time, in every separate issue, when he making or made bad decisions and bad regulations that have bad influence and bad repercussions and bad outcomes for other people - you are Not Obligate to Obey him ... or at least, you are not Obligate to Agree with him! 

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@John Butler

Sorry to say, John, I have yet to see a bonafide JW worship the GB. That would be sacrilegious. Maybe you did, and that’s why you hate them now.

As for keeping JW’s in line with Christian ethics, you could not be more wrong if you think God doesn’t use people on earth to keep and make that distinction. The fact that you reject anything to do with authority is only on your head and witness. You guys have become a legend in your own mind.

Therefore, the last days that Christ proclaimed in his day continues to this day. It has never been who gets to see God’s glory in judgment day, everyone would love to see that, even outsiders. They will, all of those that are living in that day will see the Son of Man (Symbolically) in all his glory, and no one will escape God's judgment.

However, the point has been as the one in Noah’s day. Therefore, it’s your soul that needs to be prepared, not needing to see Judgement day. There are some JW’s that continue to think, just because God forgives, and death washes away all sin, people can do whatever they desire without consequences. That's not what scripture indicates. There are several reasons why a person would go directly to hell do not pass; go. Is telling people the truth, bullying, I guess you and JWinsider continue to have something in common.

But, look in the mirror and ask yourself, what are you, Srecko, Ryan, witness doing confronting witnesses in this forum. What do you think James and JWinsider are doing. The word "bullying" can be applied in various syntax. Let's lay off the word if you're not willing to apply it to yourself.

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57 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

If i may say and put this subject, about "given authority" in this way:

IF some man .... IF he get (or if he imagined how his authority comes from "above") his authority from "above" (in any capacity we can imagine, secular or religious ...) he "has" such authority as far as he practicing what is good for others who are "under" his ruling, leading, governing position. 

Every time, in every separate issue, when he making or made bad decisions and bad regulations that have bad influence and bad repercussions and bad outcomes for other people - you are Not Obligate to Obey him ... or at least, you are not Obligate to Agree with him! 

Think about Srecko. Can your thought be expressed with secular authority? Can you defy your own government? What will happen if you didn't comply with your local laws? If nothing happens, let me know where you live, I would love a place that anyone can pick and choose, be good or bad at will. The last place that was that way was called Sodom and Gomorra. But, I believe angels destroyed them, not just for not obeying God's will, but the debauchery that was going on. Was lot knocking on doors or telling people in the streets, they should obey God?

 

So, how would you handle that? What kind of authority would be suitable to maintain Christian ethics to its highest standard? By confronting those taking the lead? Thinking you know better than they do? Do you have a higher moral standard? What would satisfy this theme of NOT obligated or should disagree? Remember, those in authority are tools and are an extension of God's sovereignty. When they go bad, they get the same justice as any other Christian, would.

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On 5/5/2019 at 9:56 AM, Melinda Mills said:

I won't watch the present nor the previous nine.  I agree there is nothing here.  

Interesting stance. So without even watching, and learning what this person said, you choose to accept group think. Not only accepting the groups position, but stating that there is nothing of value, as if you were educated on the subject. Hmmm, why even say anything at all if status quo was the approach? 

I think that forums like this and many more are invaluable, because we get to see and understand opposing views to further our knowledge and research for our position without actually having to have the conversation face to face. It gives us more time to formulate our ideas with facts (or at least hopefully facts), instead of dismissing based on our feelings. 

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5 minutes ago, Shiwiii said:

Interesting stance. So without even watching, and learning what this person said, you choose to accept group think. Not only accepting the groups position, but stating that there is nothing of value, as if you were educated on the subject. Hmmm, why even say anything at all if status quo was the approach? 

Couldn't that be said about you? What makes you think your intellect is superior? What kind of value do those opposing views reflect if they are presented in a false narrative? educate yourself first before you condemn the actions of others. If you like seeing garbage, that's up to you. Don't force your views on others. Especially false ones.

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Just now, BillyTheKid46 said:

Couldn't that be said about you? What makes you think your intellect is superior? What kind of value do those opposing views reflect if they are presented in a false narrative? educate yourself first before you condemn the actions of others. If you like seeing garbage, that's up to you. Don't force your views on others. Especially false ones.

Opposing views are an excellent way for one to reflect on the position we hold. If someone gives us something we've never thought of, it could actually open our eyes to a different view, but we must first be willing to listen. 

And what should I educate myself on in regards to this? Please tell me, so I can be educated. 

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@BillyTheKid46  Are you actually a Jehovah's Witness ? I'm beginning to think not

Quote "There are several reasons why a person would go directly to hell do not pass; go "

There is no 'hell'.   Only death and a possible resurrection. I say possible because not everyone, it seems, gets  a resurrection.  

The dead are conscious of nothing at all. 

I feel sure enough that i will be dead a long time before Judgement Day arrives. Then it will be in the hands of Jesus Christ as to if i get a resurrection or not.  And I cannot imagine that people will be resurrected just to be punished. 

And your comment  " Is telling people the truth, bullying, "  . JW's don't know the truth as they keep changing their ideas to suit themselves.

JW's worship their GB by accepting everything the GB say. The Elders worship their GB by doing everything their GB tells them to do, without asking questions and without conscience or moral thoughts.

And once again i say, your GB have no authority from God or from Jesus Christ. Your GB are false prophets and fake 'slaves'.

They have proved themselves false and fake by their words and deeds.

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      I donÂ’t recall ever hearing it referred to as the ring of truth before. Is this a new phrase theyÂ’re going to try and get everybody using along the lines of, the truth, the brotherhood, this wicked system of things, etc etc.
       
    • By Queen Esther
      THE  TRUTH  ABOUT  CHRISTMAS......
      The year was 1928, when Jehovah's people came to understand the God-dishonoring roots of Christmas. Since then, the pagan roots of Christmas customs have become general public knowledge..... but few people have made changes in their way of life as a result. But, Jehovah's Witnesses are always willing to make the needed changes in order to become more acceptable as servants of Jehovah God.
      When shown that celebrating the birth of Jesus had actually become of greater interest to people than the ransom provided by his death; that the revelry of the holiday and the spirit in which many gifts were given did not honor God;  that the magi whose gift-giving was being imitated were actually demon-inspired astrologers;  that parents set an example for their children in lying by what they told them about Santa Claus;  that  "St. Nicholas"
      (Santa Claus) was admittedly another name for Satan the Devil himself;  and that such festivals were, as acknowledged  by Cardinal Newman in his "Essay on the development of Christian Doctrine" were "the very instruments and appendages of demon-worship"  the church had adopted....  When made aware of these things, Jehovah's Witnesses promptly and permanently ceased having any part in  Christmas  celebrations.
      Jehovah's Witnesses do have good times with their family and friends. But, they do not participate in holidays and celebrations that are linked with pagan gods (as is true of such holidays as Easter, New Year's Day,  May Day and Mother's day).  Read, 2.Cor. 6:14-17.  Like the early Christians,  Jehovah's Witnesses do not even celebrate birthdays. They also respectfully refrain from sharing in national holidays, that memorialize political or military events and also refrain from giving worshipful honor to national heroes.
      WHY ?
      BECAUSE  JEHOVAH'S  WITNESSES  ARE  NO  PART  OF  THE  WORLD !
      Reference, Proclaims Book,  pages  198-200....
      ( by  Brother  Roger B. Elder )     Thank  you  Brother  Elder !
    • Guest Nicole
      By Guest Nicole
      Transcript - Promoting Love and Respect for Truth.pdf
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    • By Jack Ryan
      Governments who support “religious freedom” over the equal human rights and dignity of others condone, and even endorse discrimination.

      Tim Rymel, M.Ed., Contributor Author | Educator | Dad
      In April, Russia’s Supreme Court labeled Jehovah’s Witnesses an extremist religious group. “It effectively means that holding their beliefs and manifesting them is tantamount to a criminal act in Russia. They risk new levels of persecution by the Russian authorities,” said international legal counsel, Lorcan Price.
      In America, most of us think of Jehovah’s Witnesses as that occasional Saturday nuisance. They interrupt our morning breakfast or afternoon chores to tell us their version of the Christian faith. They cheerfully drag their families along for quiet strolls through the neighborhoods, and pass out Watchtower Magazines for us to throw away later.
      Annoying? Yes. Disruptive? Usually. But extremist? That depends.
      Growing up in the Pentecostal faith, I was taught that Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons, and Catholics were not Christians. Anyone who converted to those, or other non-mainstream Christian sects, was deceived by the devil. Though we didn’t use the word “extremist” to define those religions, we certainly saw them as a threat to the true people of God who were susceptible to “false teachings.”
      Religion, to paraphrase Merriam-Webster, is generally a belief in the supernatural with a commitment to keep up the attitudes and practices surrounding that belief. In other words, religion is more than just a belief it is an action. For some, that means attending church on Sundays. For others, it means killing people for believing the wrong things, or believing in the wrong way.
      The BBC noted that Al Qaeda’s purpose is to avenge “wrongs committed by Christians against Muslims.” The organization wants to implement a “single Islamic political leadership,” and drive away non-Muslims from areas it deems belong to the nation of Islam.
      ISIS, on the other hand, is a group of Scriptural fundamentalists who believe all other Muslims are apostates. William McCants, director of the Project on US Relations With the Islamic World at the Brookings Institution, says that ISIS wants “to restore the early Islamic empire called the caliphate and eventually take over the whole world.”
      Most of us can agree that Al Qaeda and ISIS are extremist groups. After all, they plan and implement terrorist attacks. They kill people, sometimes brutally. But is violence the only indicator of religious extremism?
      It could certainly be argued that when a religion becomes violent it becomes extremist. But even Christianity, in it’s many definitions, has a sorted history, which is seldom talked about and often dismissed. From the Spanish inquisition to the convert-or-die tactics used on Native American Indians, Christianity has been used to commit horrific acts of violence throughout the centuries. Judaism, from which Christianity arose, recorded shocking details in the Torah of the slaughter of entire populations, including women, children, and animals.
      Any religion, which purports to, alone, have all truth, and to, alone, have a direct line of communication to God, has a propensity toward extremist ideology. As University of Notre Dame Professor, Gary Gutting, points out:
      Any religion that denies the value and humanity of others is an extremist religion. Whether those actions lead to direct harm, or simply reduce protections through legislation, extremist ideology seeks to create one class that is believed to be more valued than another.
      The grandstanding that fundamentalist Christians have done since marriage equality passed in 2015 has created a growing, and disturbing trend toward extremist Christianity.
      The Oath Keepers, a vigilante Christian group, vowed to protect Kentucky County Clerk, Kim Davis, when she refused issuing a marriage license to a gay couple. They stated the judge in Davis’ case “needs to be put on notice that his behavior is not going to be accepted and we’ll be there to stop it and intercede ourselves if we have to.” And then, in an ironic twist to the story, the infamous Westboro Baptist Church, of “God hates fags” fame, picketed Kim Davis because of her multiple divorces and remarriages.
      Since then, dozens of “religious freedom” bills have been introduced across the country with the sole purpose of reducing or eliminating protections for the LGBT community in housing, employment, benefits, and even where they can go to the bathroom.
      The problem, of course, is that “religious freedom” is based on nothing more than a belief. Governments who support “religious freedom” over the equal human rights and dignity of others condone, and even endorse discrimination. In any such environment religious extremism is the outcome, threatening the very existence of democracy.

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    • By The Librarian
      “What Is Truth?”
      THAT question was cynically posed to Jesus by the Roman Governor Pontius Pilate. He was not interested in an answer, and Jesus did not give him one. Perhaps Pilate viewed truth as too elusive to grasp.
      Pilate indifferently rejected the opportunity to learn such truth. What about you?
      Learn more about Jesus Christ:
       
       
    • By Bible Speaks
      25 "Therefore, now that you have put away deceit, each one of you speak truth with his neighbor, because we are members belonging to one another." (Eph.4:25) NWT
      Don't let your ears witness what your eyes didn't see. Don't let your mouth speak what your heart doesn't  feel.    Live a honest life for Jehovah! 

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    • By Bible Speaks
      Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. "But we have renounced the shameful, underhanded things, not walking with cunning or adulterating the word of God; but by making the truth manifest, we recommend ourselves to every human conscience in the sight of God."
      (2 Cor. 4:2)

    • By Bible Speaks
      Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. O Jehovah, who may
             be a guest in your tent?
      Who may reside in your holy mountain?
        Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. The one who is walking faultlessly,
      Practicing what is right
      And speaking the truth in his heart."
                 (Psalm 15:1,2)       Do not let your mouth say       what your heart doesn't feel. 
    • By Bible Speaks
      What Does the Bible Say About Christmas? ???????
      The Bible’s answer
      The Bible does not give the date of Jesus’ birth, nor does it say that we should celebrate his birthday. As McClintock and Strong’s Cyclopedia states: “The observance of Christmas is not of divine appointment, nor is it of NT [New Testament] origin.” Instead, an examination of the history of Christmas exposes its roots in pagan religious rites. The Bible shows that we offend God if we try to worship him in a way that he does not approve of.—Exodus 32:5-7.  History of Christmas customs
      Celebrating Jesus’ birthday: “The early Christians did not celebrate [Jesus’] birth because they considered the celebration of anyone’s birth to be a pagan custom.”—The World Book Encyclopedia.
      •December 25: There is no proof that Jesus was born on that date. Church leaders likely chose this date to coincide with pagan festivals held on or around the winter solstice.
      •Gift-giving, feasting, partying: The Encyclopedia Americana says: “Saturnalia, a Roman feast celebrated in mid-December, provided the model for many of the merry-making customs of Christmas. From this celebration, for example, were derived the elaborate feasting, the giving of gifts, and the burning of candles.” The Encyclopædia Britannica notes that “all work and business were suspended” during Saturnalia.
      •Christmas lights: According to The Encyclopedia of Religion, Europeans decorated their homes “with lights and evergreens of all kinds” to celebrate the winter solstice and to combat evil spirits.
      •Mistletoe, holly: “The Druids ascribed magical properties to the mistletoe in particular. The evergreen holly was worshiped as a promise of the sun’s return.”—The Encyclopedia Americana.
      •Christmas tree: “Tree worship, common among the pagan Europeans, survived after their conversion to Christianity.” One of the ways in which tree worship survived is in the custom of “placing a Yule tree at an entrance or inside the house in the midwinter holidays.”—Encyclopædia Britannica.
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    • By Bible Speaks
      @caribbeangiirll shares with us: “My sister and I are out in service working the territory in Curacao, Netherlands Antilles. It was our first time doing territory work here since both of us were living in Canada and took the truth there. We had so much fun sharing the good news here.”
    • By Bible Speaks
      @almaguers123 from Corpus Christi,Texas, USA shares with us: “Our first part as a family!!! My husband finally made the truth his own and was baptized this year. So happy we almost couldn’t contain ourselves. Thanks to Jehovah’s undeserved kindness we are enjoying many blessings together.” Baptisms Corpus Christi Texas USA
    • By Bible Speaks
      "Ride in the cause of truth and humility."—Ps. 45:4.
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