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In answer to Anna question:

The reasons were well explained by brother Lett in 2015 October meeting. He, sincerely mentioned at the beginning of his talk that thought God’s spirit guided them to the new conclusions about the falling in Babylonian hands and getting out from her. And I think so.

I remember feeling very happy when I heard his comments, because finally God has shown to the brothers on charge the discernment regarding this matter. Well, this is only half of the way, but half is more than nothing, it only remains the other half.

Let me start with this words from Jesus, I include two records about the same situation and some emphasis:

(Mark 9:31, 32) “For he was teaching his disciples and telling them: “The Son of man is going to be betrayed into men’s hands, and they will kill him, but despite being killed, he will rise three days later.” 32 However, they did not understand his statement, and they were afraid to question him.”

(Luke 9:44, 45) “Listen carefully and remember these words, for the Son of man is going to be betrayed into men’s hands.” 45 But they did not understand what he was saying. In fact, it was concealed from them so that they might not grasp it, and they were afraid to question him about this saying.”

Now one example: if someone says to you: ‘one person is going to punch me; and then I will die, and finally I will be buried.’ What word would not you understand? Then what was wrong with the apostles? Why was so difficult to understand these simple statements? Their fears. The fears not looking at themselves in thrones with his admired Messiah. Too much for them. This TRUTH was concealed to them.

Accordingly, regarding our days. We, God’s people firmly believe we are living in a wonderful spiritual paradise. We will continue preaching till the end (Mt24:14). The only bad thing waiting for us (not the rest of the world) is Gog the Magog attack but, Jehovah will rescue us. So, no fears!

If some POSSIBLE application of prophetic verses could be understood as some future failure as people, worthy of punishment, discipline… well, this is too much. This application is, simply, remote, if not impossible.

Half of the way in the correct direction

Listening to brother Lett in the aforementioned meeting make me happy because one of our beliefs was difficult to understand to me: the dead condition of our work in 1918, the situation as a dry-bones valley on these years.

Once, reading one biography stroked me the sister relating her life because in that period of time mention she attended a convention. I thought “what, our work was paralyzed.” And I began to investigate. And I found odd (for our former focus) facts:

(Now, I’m paraphrasing from the Spanish translation of the 1969 book “Then is finished the mystery of God”, because I have no way to have it in English and perhaps some phrases or page numbers are different in the actual English book)

fm-S pg. 299-302

  • ·        Watch Tower magazine continued to be published semimonthly without interruption.
  • ·        Despite partly records, 17,961 persons partaken of the emblems.
  • ·        In USA, they were 15 traveling speakers, pilgrims.
  • ·        Also, they were 225 colporteurs.
  • ·        Were celebrated more than 40 conventions.

How could be it possible if our work was dead, with dry bones? Yes, perhaps injured, slowed, but not stopped at all, according these and another data spread in different publications.  So, we have now a better understanding of these matters and the way they are related to several prophecies.

But, I don’t remember if in this talk of brother Lett or from another brother, I heard this logical statement. “If we move one meaning, it also moves another connected meanings.” Obviously.

Let’s take for example this, presently, orphan prophecy:

·        (Revelation 11:7, 8) “When they have finished their witnessing, the wild beast that ascends out of the abyss will wage war with them and conquer them and kill them. 8 And their corpses will be on the main street of the great city that is in a spiritual sense called Sod′om and Egypt, where their Lord was also executed on the stake.”

Till now (2015), these words fit very well with our former view. Our work was deceased in 1918, our organization was a dry-bones valley. But according our new comprehension about the facts on those years this is impossible. This is one of many, and I mean many other related prophecies that now are ‘orphans.’

Do you think I am thinking of myself as a prophet? Well, according one friend of me, yes, I am a false prophet. I don’t feel very happy thinking these prophecies could have a future fulfillment, I prefer to be wrong. Think I, perhaps, I’m a bright boy, more intelligent or blessed than the brothers God are using to teach us? Never, at no time. Then, why years before brother Lett gives these speech, one not cultivated person, not very intelligent not bright at all, could reach to the same conclusions years after "become truth"? For the same reasons any of us reading and thinking could reach to them.

 

 

This piece doesn’t belong to this machine!

 

Have you ever deal with a mechanism hard to assemble? Perhaps you try one way, then the opposite, and get frustrated because any way you try always remains spare parts, pieces left. But, as you don’t give up, finally relies one part doesn’t belong to the mechanism you’re trying to assemble. It was disturbing all the work. Finally, every piece fits perfectly.

We, the JW, also -I sincerely think so- have one piece deeply disturbing our vision about all. All our eschatology revolves, pivots around it. The day this part would remain outside the picture everything will be brightly clear. Sure you know what I’m referring.

Am I teaching these ideas I sincerely believe to the brothers? Not at all, for the next reasons.

  • ·        Loyalty to God’s servants on charge of this enormous responsibility.
  • ·        It’s perfectly possible I will be wrong, why then insists on the matter?
  • ·        This behavior would lead to disunion
  • ·        In reality, Jesus is on charge. If something is wrong with us, let the Master correct the situation, not me!

And, as I mentioned in my previous post originated your question,

  • ·        I belong to this people, and whatever happens to Jehovah’s people will also happen to me.

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I am not sure if this prophesy has been orphaned. Is it possible that it can still be applied to our new understanding? The exile to Babylon was because of a punishment from Jehovah because of the Jews rebellion and unfaithfulness. In the secondary application it was also a punishment from Jehovah because of the beginnings of unfaithfulness (apostasy) in 2nd Century C.E . The wild beast that kills the Witnesses in Revelation is not a punishment from Jehovah. On the contrary, it is an attack

In answer to Anna question: The reasons were well explained by brother Lett in 2015 October meeting. He, sincerely mentioned at the beginning of his talk that thought God’s spirit guided them to the new conclusions about the falling in Babylonian hands and getting out from her. And I think so. I remember feeling very happy when I heard his comments, because finally God has shown to the brothers on charge the discernment regarding this matter. Well, this is only half of the way, but hal

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8 hours ago, ComfortMyPeople said:

Do you think I am thinking of myself as a prophet? Well, according one friend of me, yes, I am a false prophet.

Hahaha, no, I do not think that you think you are a prophet  :).

Believe it or not I thought exactly the same about the captivity to Babylon and the dry bones as you did. It never made sense to me the way it was understood previously, and so when brother Lett explained the new understanding I thought "wait, I thought that all along!" And it made me giggle a little bit when he said it was a "million dollar question". If that was the case, then I should be getting the million dollars! xDxD I am sure that if you and I had the same thoughts, then there will be many others who thought the same. Like you said: " Then, why years before brother Lett gives these speech, one not cultivated person, not very intelligent not bright at all, could reach to the same conclusions years after "become truth"? For the same reasons any of us reading and thinking could reach to them".  

I don't have time right now to address the point you raised about Rev 11: 7, 8....I will have to read it properly and think about it. And then I will reply. Hopefully others will comment too.

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22 minutes ago, JW Insider said:

You have apologized for your English, and this was unnecessary, because it is very easy to understand. However, it would be good to get this one word, quoted above, changed from "scatology" to "eschatology." It creates a pretty funny joke in context, but I don't think that's what you were aiming for. If you want it changed, I can get an admin to edit it, and then remove this comment.

Oh, thank you so much! Then, what's the meaning of this word I've just invented? Perhaps something bad? I hope not!

So, please, help me to correct this mistake. 

By the way, as I'm a newcomer to this forum, I think al made other errors, because in spite I was trying to put two question in the general questions folder, it seems that I put them under "Controversial Posts", and in spite I've been  trying  I have not succeeded

The two posts were:


How many letters did Paul write to the Corinthians?

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while the fireworks exploded around them

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3 hours ago, ComfortMyPeople said:

I was trying to put two question in the general questions folder, it seems that I put them under "Controversial Posts", and in spite I've been  trying  I have not succeeded

That might have been because an admin or moderator thought they belonged there. I have no idea.

Of course, even if they weren't controversial before, I might have just made the topics controversial in the way I answered either one of them. I don't know what the rule is exactly, so I leave that up to the moderators to decide.

In my opinion there is often a small level of controversy in almost any question. And even something controversial can also be a "general interest" question, especially if someone brought it up because of a recently read or recently studied publication.

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3 hours ago, JW Insider said:
 
The word was edited from scatology to eschatology.
 
sca·tol·o·gy
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  1. an interest in or preoccupation with excrement and excretion.
    • obscene literature that is concerned with excrement and excretion.
       
       

Horrible!

Thanks for your kind help. I apologize if I have offended unintentionally

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On 1/17/2017 at 6:16 AM, ComfortMyPeople said:

   (Revelation 11:7, 8) “When they have finished their witnessing, the wild beast that ascends out of the abyss will wage war with them and conquer them and kill them. 8 And their corpses will be on the main street of the great city that is in a spiritual sense called Sod′om and Egypt, where their Lord was also executed on the stake.”

Till now (2015), these words fit very well with our former view. Our work was deceased in 1918, our organization was a dry-bones valley. But according our new comprehension about the facts on those years this is impossible. This is one of many, and I mean many other related prophecies that now are ‘orphans.’

I am not sure if this prophesy has been orphaned. Is it possible that it can still be applied to our new understanding?

The exile to Babylon was because of a punishment from Jehovah because of the Jews rebellion and unfaithfulness. In the secondary application it was also a punishment from Jehovah because of the beginnings of unfaithfulness (apostasy) in 2nd Century C.E . The wild beast that kills the Witnesses in Revelation is not a punishment from Jehovah. On the contrary, it is an attack from Jehovah's opposer because the Witnesses were doing the right thing in Jehovah's eyes. So I don't think the explanation in  WT 2014/ 11/15 P. 30 is at odds with our refined understanding of the Babylonian exile and of the dry bones. It seems to refer to the short period of when the brothers were thrown into prison/symbolically killed between 1914 and 1919. I do not think it necessarily has a future application, although when the great tribulation comes the Witnesses will be attacked, but not killed, (even symbolically) because before that happens, Jehovah will step in. (Matt 24:22, Rev 7:14)

"....the account refers to God’s anointed ones who took the lead during a difficult time of testing. So in the fulfillment of

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, the anointed brothers who took the lead at the time of the establishment of God’s Kingdom in heaven in 1914 preached “in sackcloth” for three and a half years.

At the end of their preaching in sackcloth, these anointed ones were symbolically killed when they were thrown into prison for a comparatively shorter period of time, a symbolic three and a half days. In the eyes of the enemies of God’s people, their work had been killed, causing those opponents much joy.

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However, true to the words of the prophecy, at the end of the three and a half days, the two witnesses were brought back to life. Not only were these anointed ones released from prison but those who remained faithful received a special appointment from God through their Lord, Jesus Christ. In 1919 they were among those who were appointed to serve as a “faithful and discreet slave” to care for the spiritual needs of God’s people during the last days.

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P.S. For those who want a refresher about the refined understanding of captivity to Babylon:

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20 hours ago, Anna said:

The exile to Babylon was because of a punishment from Jehovah because of the Jews rebellion and unfaithfulness.

The wild beast that kills the Witnesses in Revelation is not a punishment from Jehovah. On the contrary, it is an attack from Jehovah's opposer because the Witnesses were doing the right thing in Jehovah's eyes.

 

 

Perfect points Anna. Very valid ones. I would like to add some ideas, but, rather, I prefer to think whath you mention will be the correct one. In fact, I hope so!, I prefer so!

The reason behind my commentaries about if some possible discipline from God was still future, is to remark the fact that, even in that case, all of us, me the first, will be close to God's people, no matter what happens.

 

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Just wish to agree that the hardship that will come from the attack of Satan because of his envy of the spiritual paradise that Jehovah’s people have will not be discipline from Jehovah. Hardship will come though in the future, regard less.   The prophet Habakkuk prophesied about it:

 (Habakkuk 3:16-19) I heard and I trembled within; At the sound my lips quivered. Rottenness entered my bones; My legs beneath me were shaking. But I quietly wait for the day of distress, For it is coming upon the people who attack us. 17 Although the fig tree may not blossom, And there may be no fruit on the vines; Although the olive crop may fail, And the fields may produce no food; Although the flock may disappear from the pen, And there may be no cattle in the stalls; 18 Yet, as for me, I will exult in Jehovah; I will be joyful in the God of my salvation. 19 The Sovereign Lord Jehovah is my strength; He will make my feet like those of a deer And cause me to tread on high places.

 

Although God’s people will have to witness terrible conditions and it will affect them, they will know that it is not directed at them. As the text above shows: “It is coming upon the people who attack us”. Jehovah will give them confidence  and joy and he will sustain them.  The tribulation will be cut short so flesh will be saved despite famine and deprivation.  (See also Ezekiel 38 and 39.)

 

Another point that I believe will interest you is that true worship has never died out – it was subdued but it was always there. In Ahab and Jezebel’s time the prophet Elijah thought only he was serving Jehovah but Jehovah assured him that there were 7,000 who were faithful to him, though not prominent ones, and this could not be known by Elijah.  Similarly, in the dark ages, we cannot know all that who were faithful Christians then. But Jehovah knows them.

 

(1 Kings 19   9-18)  There he entered a cave and spent the night; and look! Jehovah’s word came to him, telling him: “What are you doing here, E·liʹjah?” 10 To this he said: “I have been absolutely zealous for Jehovah the God of armies; for the people of Israel have forsaken your covenant, your altars they have torn down, and your prophets they have killed with the sword, and I am the only one left. Now they are seeking to take my life away.” 11 But He said: “Go out and stand on the mountain before Jehovah.” And look! Jehovah was passing by, and a great and strong wind was splitting mountains and breaking crags before Jehovah, but Jehovah was not in the wind. After the wind, there was an earthquake, but Jehovah was not in the earthquake. 12 After the earthquake, there was a fire, but Jehovah was not in the fire. After the fire, there was a calm, low voice. 13 As soon as E·liʹjah heard it, he wrapped his face in his official garment and went out and stood at the entrance of the cave. Then a voice asked him: “What are you doing here, E·liʹjah?” 14 To this he said: “I have been absolutely zealous for Jehovah the God of armies; for the people of Israel have forsaken your covenant, your altars they have torn down, and your prophets they have killed with the sword, and I am the only one left. Now they are seeking to take my life away.” 15 Jehovah said to him: “Return, and go to the wilderness of Damascus. When you arrive, anoint Hazʹa·el as king over Syria. 16 And you should anoint Jeʹhu the grandson of Nimʹshi as king over Israel, and you should anoint E·liʹsha the son of Shaʹphat from Aʹbel-me·hoʹlah as prophet to take your place. 17 Anyone escaping from Hazʹa·el’s sword, Jeʹhu will put to death; and anyone escaping from Jeʹhu’s sword, E·liʹsha will put to death. 18 And I still have left 7,000 in Israel, all whose knees have not bent down to Baʹal and whose mouths have not kissed him.”

 

 

At all the times that the people of Jehovah were disciplined there were faithful ones who continued to serve Jehovah, though in difficult conditions, e.g. Daniel and the three Hebrew officials.  They determined in their hearts that they would not pollute themselves with the food of Babylon. Daniel continued to prayer and mischief was framed against him for that .. He was later thrown into the lion’s den.  The three Hebrew officials did not succumb to idolatry and were thrown into the fiery furnace.  Daniel and the three Hebrew officials were true Witnesses of Jehovah.  Doubtless there were others who were not prominent who were also faithful to God and persisted in true worship. The true God Jehovah will have Witnesses at all points of history.  Even if it seems that the work is dead we know that Jehovah will have Witnesses because he is the true God.  Doubtless many pursued economic interests and did not bother with or were lukewarm in their worship but Jehovah had his Witnesses.  And a remnant also came out of Babylon who were zealous to restore Jehovah’s worship fully in an organized way.

 

Jesus said the wheat and the weeds would grow together; the weeds would overwhelm the wheat but the wheat would persist, as Jesus said they would be separated in the time of the end.  So we must not think that after the apostles died there were no people who served and pleased Jehovah.  We know from history about the persecution of those who opposed the church teachings and were executed by the church and the state.  Many were banished like the translators who fled to other countries where they could continue their work. (We know even scientists were persecuted for disagreeing from the Catholic Church and we know they were vindicated.)   I am saying this to agree with the Watchtower today which showed that the wheat-like Christians existing in the ages since the death of the apostles tried their best to serve God though they could not be organized like today because of being underground.

 

Excerpt from November 2016 Study edition, page 23: paragraph 9.  “Even so, a small number of anointed wheatlike Christians were doing their best to worship God, but their voices were being drowned out.”

 

 (Matthew 13:24, 25) He presented another illustration to them, saying: “The Kingdom of the heavens may be likened to a man who sowed fine seed in his field. 25 While men were sleeping, his enemy came and oversowed weeds in among the wheat and left.

(Matthew 13:37-39) In response he said: “The sower of the fine seed is the Son of man; 38 the field is the world. As for the fine seed, these are the sons of the Kingdom, but the weeds are the sons of the wicked one, 39 and the enemy who sowed them is the Devil. The harvest is a conclusion of a system of things, and the reapers are angels.

 

 (Matthew 13:28-30) 28 He said to them, ‘An enemy, a man, did this.’ The slaves said to him, ‘Do you want us, then, to go out and collect them?’ 29 He said, ‘No, for fear that while collecting the weeds, you uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and in the harvest season, I will tell the reapers: First collect the weeds and bind them in bundles to burn them up; then gather the wheat into my storehouse.’

 

These scriptures prove the existence of wheat-like Christians down through the ages.  They were stifled by the weeds but they were there nevertheless, giving Jehovah God worship in any way they could, firmly resolving in their hearts to stay true to the Master Christ.  It is not dissimilar to persons today enduring long periods of imprisonment and doing their best to remain faithful. We have many examples and that of well known Bro. Harold King.

 

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9 hours ago, Melinda Mills said:

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Melinda, I fully agree with you when you say the worship of Jehovah never has been completely annihilated, nor will it be! So, when we read in the Bible about a dry-bones valley, or the dead of the two witness, or the weeds among the wheat, all these prophecies only describe periods of trouble for God’s people. Not their annihilation. And, of course, the final attack from Gog will not lead us to our end, at any moment, but Gog’s end.

I believe we all can agree with the idea that, sometimes, Jehovah allow His servants suffer bad experiences, sometimes to refine them, sometimes to prove Satan is a liar. Cannot we?  Only two examples:

  • ·        (Hebrews 5:8) “Although he was a son, he learned obedience from the things he suffered.” Note, Jehovah was not angry with his son. By no means, but God allowed His son died.

  • ·        (Luke 22:31) 31 “Simon, Simon, look! Satan has demanded to have all of you to sift you as wheat.” They weren’t rejected by God, but refined

However, until now (better expressed, till 2015 October Meeting) we were very happy applying A LOT of prophecies (and “old-fashioned” types-antitypes) to the experiences of Bible Students in the 1914-1919 period. And, in spite I wouldn’t expound on this too much, I insist that, from 2015 we have A LOT of orphaned of these Bible thoughts. Or at least I think so.

Anna pointed out above a very interesting matter regarding the killing of the two witnessing doesn’t represent Gods’ disapproval. Also, Anna quoted WT 2014/ 11/15 P. 30, where we read that these happenings had to be with the brothers who took the lead and not necessarily the brotherhood.

Well, we have next (possibly) orphaned now.

  • (Revelation 13:7) “It was permitted to wage war with the holy ones and conquer them”

Application until now: *** w12 6/15 p. 15 par. 6 Jehovah Reveals What “Must Shortly Take Place” ***

The seventh head of the wild beast as much as killed the preaching work for a period of time. Jehovah foresaw this dramatic event and revealed it to John. God also told John that the secondary part of the seed would be revived to increased spiritual activity. (Rev. 11:3, 7-11) The history of Jehovah’s modern-day servants confirms that those events took place.

 

 

  • (Daniel 7:25) “He will speak words against the Most High, and he will continually harass the holy ones of the Supreme One. He will intend to change times and law, and they will be given into his hand.”

Application until now *** dp chap. 9 p. 143 par. 31 Who Will Rule the World? ***

“Harassment of God’s anointed ones climaxed on June 21, 1918, when the president, J. F. Rutherford, and prominent members of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society were sentenced on false charges to long prison terms. Intending “to change times and law,” the “small” horn had effectively killed the organized preaching work.”

 

 

  • (Zechariah 14:1, 2) “Look! The day is coming, a day belonging to Jehovah, when the spoil from you will be divided in your midst. 2 I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for the war; and the city will be captured and the houses plundered and the women raped. And half of the city will go into exile, but the remaining ones of the people will not be cut off from the city.”

Application until now: *** w13 2/15 p. 18 par. 5 Stay in Jehovah’s Valley of Protection ***

Zechariah foretold what action the nations would take, saying: “The city [Jerusalem] will actually be captured.” During World War I, prominent members within the earthly part of Jehovah’s organization were “captured,” or arrested, and sent off to a prison in Atlanta, Georgia, U.S.A. ‘The houses were pillaged’ in that injustices and brutality were heaped upon these and other innocent integrity keepers. The attackers plundered the wealth of influence that the remnant exercised by banning their literature and restricting their activities as Kingdom proclaimers.

·        There are more examples, but what we can, perhaps, deduct, is:

  • ·        There are quite a few prophecies pointing a turbulent time for God’s people.

  • ·        These prophecies, until now, we believe fit perfectly with our 1918 experiences.

  • ·        As we now understand, and according the real facts that, our work was not kill in that period.

  • ·        The Gog final war has nothing to do with these experiences

I thought that more information had been provided in the last October Meeting, perhaps trying to harmonize these and other passages. Anyway, let’s wait until “the proper time.”

 

On 1/21/2017 at 1:20 AM, Anna said:

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Anna, I've posted bellow, answering to Mellinda some ideas I consider, perhaps, partly consider the same matter you wrote.

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We do not put this forth as a “prophecy”, nor would we feel anything was wrong if 2034 came and went and nothing had happened as far the full binding of Satan and the destruction of his empire is concerned. All things are in God’s hands."   What does Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  represent? The Epiphany of Christ's Presence. The Epiphany was spoken of in the same article “END OF WORLD IN 1914?" It represents that Ah-ah moment of the realization of an undergoing prophecy. Jehovah's people will start to notice their health is generally getting better a little at a time and start sharing these revelations with one another. Notice how the wicked and lawless will be destroyed? "Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and Bring to Nothing by the Manifestation of his Presence." (Hello guest! 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"For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another.  All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress." (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. )   "For just as the lightning comes out of the east and shines over to the west, so the Presence of the Son of man will be." (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) Are you gaining the understanding that these things are fulfilled in a Spiritual Manner? Ever since Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. , right-hearted ones have been witnessing the Presence of the Son of man. AfterHello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. , the wicked will also start to gain the understanding that they are really dying and lament all the way to everlasting destruction.   As the Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  come to their conclusion and the seperating work is completed, even the wicked will SEE but after it is too late! Yes, the Revealing of the Son of Man will soon begin for the 'ungodly' as we head into Christ Millennial Reign.   What is the 'sudden destruction' that comes upon those, once the pangs of distress comes to their end? The Bible reveals it in this manner: "And this is the scourge with which Jehovah will scourge all the peoples who wage war against Jerusalem: Their flesh will rot away while they stand on their feet, their eyes will rot away in their sockets, and their tongues will rot away in their mouths." (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) Those who are figuratively hurled into Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. , die 'the second death' which symbolizes everlasting destruction.    Once 'the wicked' witness Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. that's our brothers and sisters (the sheep) living beyond the 70 or 80 years. Gog of Magog will come to destroy God's Name People. At the time, the goats within our 144,000 Congregations will have been separated to join all Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. . "In that day confusion from Jehovah will be widespread among them; and each one will grab hold of the hand of his companion, and his hand will come against the hand of his companion." (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) So it is written, so it shall come to pass! IF you love Justice, and hate Injustice, why not take a stand today by asking for a Free Hello guest! 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      2034 has a dual significance of several Bible Prophecies that will begin to unfold in the near future. One of those prophecies are in response to the 'short period of time' Satan has, known as the Last Days. "Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing that he has a short period of time." (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) 2034 doesn't represent the beginning of this period but rather the end of it. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. would come to a close as the allotted time is exhausted giving a full witness to the earth's inhabitants. "And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come." (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. )
      That End is not the end of the world, but rather the End of an Age of Wickedness. An Explanation from The Watchtower Magazine, December 15, 2003, Pages 14 - 19 entitled "Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. The issuance of this divine decree in 2490 B.C.E. marked the beginning of the end for that ungodly world. Just think what that meant for those then living! Only 120 years more and Jehovah would bring “the deluge of waters upon the earth to bring to ruin all flesh. What about us? Some 90 years have passed since the last days of this system of things began in 1914. We are certainly in “the time of the end.” (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. )
      Could the Great Tribulation occur soon after 2034? It is possible that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ was referring to the Great Tribulation as an allotment period of time. Why? Jesus explains to his followers, "Moreover, just as it occurred in the days of Noah, so it will be in the days of the Son of man:" Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) Weren't the days of Noah 120 years in length? (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) This period (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) is a conclusion of the system of things. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.   What does tribulation mean?
      Definition of tribulation : distress or suffering resulting from oppression or persecution
      also : a trying experience   'Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing that he has a short period of time.' (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) Are we not in distress and suffering resulting from oppression or persecution especially since 1914? The Last Days began in Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. , but could 2034 mark the end of the Last Days? It could...
      The short period of time would not be an exhaustive amount of time that would seem to go on and on and on. The Scriptures point out that Satan recognizes that this allotment of time to be a short period of time. 2034 would not only represent the end of Satan's Wicked Rule, but would also mark Christ Millennial Reign poised to begin. Therefore, it makes sense that Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. would be completed prior to the end of the Last Days in 2034.   Notice this teaching from the Apostle Paul, "For God is my witness of how I am longing for all of you with such tender affection as Christ Jesus has. And this is what I continue praying, that your love may abound still more and more with accurate knowledge and full discernment; that you may make sure of the more important things, so that you may be flawless and not stumbling others up to the day of Christ;" (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. )   2034 is not an end all date, by this time Satan and his demons will have gathered the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty. (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) A host of other prophecies begin to emerge. For instance, the separation work of the sheep and goats begin. Jesus would grant Life to Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  whom he chooses as his sheep. They would be marked to be Survivors during Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. . They simply continue living during the condition or situation of Armageddon that forms at (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) and (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) and become Survivors of Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. . Once the Day of Christ does begin, no harm will be allowed to come upon the faithful as the wicked die off.
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      Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Prophecies point to the 'timing' of the coming days as a Day of Vindication of Jehovah's Name. There are two years within Jehovah's Organization that can give us insight to the timing of the coming Vindication. Knowing these dates do not give anyone divine protection or superpowers. Matter of fact, knowing such dates and understanding them can make one more accountable to Jehovah. Serving Jehovah with a Full Heart no matter what date comes and goes should be our Priority.   If you followed and read articles I have written in the past, you well know about the years 1914 and 2034. But those are not the two years I am speaking about. The two dates I am speaking about are the ones that certain events occurred within God's organization here on the earth. (1919 and 1935) Those on the outside will result in (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) as the 'Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ' come to their end.   In Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. , shortly after the Last Days began in Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. , Jesus Christ would direct the angels to bundle up the weeds in order to be pitched into the fire to be burned up. The weeds are Apostate Christians whom stopped associating with Christ's Brothers. Today, those who have followed the steps of Judas Iscariot are referred to as the man of lawlessness who make the false claim they are part of the 'Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. '. (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) These ones are being collected on an individual basis in the time of the end for undergoing the judicial punishment of everlasting fire. In the same manner that the tree of life was protected by angels and a flaming sword, these impostors also known as the sons of disobedience restlessly attack the Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  that is still earthly. (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) This attack will soon be cut short as the remnant are suddenly summoned to Heaven. (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. )   Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  is also a year that has significance. That was the time when an earthly hope was revealed in the Book of Revelation as to having Survivors of the Great Tribulation. (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) Just before the sudden departure of the remnant, the King begins Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  with good health and life in a gradual manner. Those who are marked, simply keep on living from the Conclusion of the Last Days into Christ's Millennial Reign. It's Spiritual. In a few short years, the wicked will begin to noticed that God's Named People are no longer getting sick. Why aren't they dying? With mouths of foam and fraught and delusion, they slowly slide away into the Second Death. Those who join the forces of Gog of Magog will be met with angels and the flaming sword on a massive scale to protect those who have washed their robes in the Blood of the Lamb.   When Jehovah approached Noah at the age of 480 by the means of an angel, Noah didn't know of the time allotted to build the ark. It's not likely he even had a family at this point. We only learn of the 'allotted time limit' when Moses wrote about it in (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) Jesus Christ kept reminding his disciples, 'just as it occurred in the days of Noah, so it will be in the days of the Son of man:' (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) This gives us strong indication that those who are cut off have no idea of what is going on. But notice this next scripture, "Many will cleanse themselves and whiten themselves and will be refined. And the wicked ones will act wickedly, and none of the wicked will understand; but those having insight will understand." (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. )   As these time periods come and go, the wicked who have No Understanding will become more vile but the scripture promises,  'they will do no harm nor cause any ruin in all my holy mountain'. (Hello guest! 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      ● Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. says: “Jehovah’s day will come as a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a hissing noise, but the elements being intensely hot will be dissolved, and earth and the works in it will be discovered.” What does this text mean? Are not the physical heavens and earth a permanent part of God’s creation?—U.S.A.
      In determining the significance of the apostle Peter’s statement, we must remember that the terms “heavens” and “earth” often do not designate the physical heavens and earth, which are an abiding part of God’s creation. (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) A notable example of this are the words of Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. regarding the day of Jehovah’s triumph over Babylon: “I shall cause heaven itself to become agitated, and the earth will rock out of its place at the fury of Jehovah of armies and at the day of his burning anger.”
      Obviously the fall of ancient Babylon resulted in no agitation of the physical heavens—sun, moon, stars and planets—nor was the literal earth rocked out of its place. But, figuratively speaking, the heavens and the earth were affected. How so? Well, we might recall that the Babylonians worshiped the sun and moon as well as the stars and planets as gods or goddesses. So when these deities proved unable to help Babylon in her greatest time of need, her “heavens” became agitated. Also the “earth” of the Babylonian Empire rocked out of its place. Babylon lost control of this vast portion of the earth upon being defeated and becoming a mere province of the Persian Empire.
      The case of Babylon illustrates that the heavenly bodies have been viewed as representing powers higher than men, powers that have exercised controlling influence over mankind. The worship that has been given to these heavenly bodies has actually gone to invisible spirit forces higher than men, namely, to Satan the Devil and his demons. This is evident from the apostle Paul’s declaration: “The things which the nations sacrifice they sacrifice to demons.”—Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. .
      Yes, God’s Word clearly shows that Satan and his demons constitute a “heaven” over the human society alienated from Jehovah God. The apostle Paul, for example, referred to “wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places,” with their governments, authorities and world rulers. (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) And Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. tells us: “The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.”
      So it must be the heavens composed of Satan and his demons that “will pass away with a hissing noise.” A fierce, devouring flame of great magnitude makes a loud hissing sound, as, for example, in the burning of a house or a forest. Of course, literal fire would be ineffective in bringing an end to Satan and his demons. But the wicked heavens will not escape the expression of God’s rage, spoken of in Scripture as burning like a fire. (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) That the Satanic and demonic heavens will pass away is confirmed in the book of Revelation. After having seen a vision of the complete defeat of Satan’s forces and the casting of Satan into the abyss, the apostle John noted that the “former heaven and the former earth had passed away.”—Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. .
      The “former heaven” not being literal, the “former earth” likewise is not literal. According to Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. , not the physical earth, but the kings of the earth and their armies are the ones in line for destruction. Thus the “former earth” designates the wicked human society under the control of Satan and his demons. This identification of the “earth” is in agreement with the fact that, in Biblical usage, the term “earth” can denote earth’s inhabitants.—Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. .
      Accordingly, no “elements” (or constituent parts) of the symbolic heavens and earth will be able to withstand the intense heat of God’s burning anger. They will be completely “dissolved.” The words of Peter somewhat parallel the thought expressed at Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. : “‘The day is coming that is burning like the furnace, and all the presumptuous ones and all those doing wickedness must become as stubble. And the day that is coming will certainly devour them,’ Jehovah of armies has said, ‘so that it will not leave to them either root or bough.’”
      The earth, the ungodly human society, and its works will be “discovered” (the Greek word for “discovered” appears in the two oldest and most reliable Bible manuscripts available, the Vatican 1209 and the Sinaitic). This means that the wicked human society and its works will be seared bare of all disguise, exposed as being against Jehovah God and his kingdom by Christ and therefore worthy of destruction. By means of his Son, Christ Jesus, and multitudes of faithful angels, Jehovah God will see to it that none of the wicked works will go undiscovered and unpunished. A comparable idea is conveyed at Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. : “Jehovah is coming forth from his place to call to account the error of the inhabitant of the land against him, and the land will certainly expose her bloodshed and will no longer cover over her killed ones.”
      If we desire to withstand the consuming heat that will blaze against the old heavens and earth, we must make it our determination to know and to follow the course approved by Jehovah God. As Peter encouraged fellow Christians: “Do your utmost to be found finally by him spotless and unblemished and in peace. . . . be on your guard that you may not be led away with [the untaught and unsteady] by the error of the law-defying people and fall from your own steadfastness. No, but go on growing in the undeserved kindness and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.”—Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ."
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      The previous explanation to me is complex, impossible for any rational person to understand, and is built on a web of improbabilities.
      The first time I read this Scripture, so many years ago, it seemed crystal clear that what was being described as Global Thermonuclear War.  It made perfect sense to me then, and it makes perfect sense to me now ... and it fits the progression of world events, and just plain makes the only sense one can make of that Scripture.
      The Society's explanation seems like another "Question fro Readers" question that has been bumping around the Internet since about 1995, "Are Cats For True Christians", which many here have read many times.
    • By BroRando
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      "And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come." (
      Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) The Bible does point to conditions and a timetable to expect when such prophecies will be fulfilled. Therefore, a certain amount of time would be needed to pass in order for the end to be brought forth. Notice the following verses as it pertains to time.

      "He will revive us after two days. On the third day he will raise us up, And we will live before him. We will know, we will earnestly seek to know Jehovah. His going out is as certain as the dawn; He will come to us like a pouring rain, Like a spring rain that saturates the earth." (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) We see the timetable is two days. "However, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day." (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. )

      This Bible Principle is the Key to gain the understanding of where we are according to the time of the end. "Many will cleanse themselves and whiten themselves and will be refined. And the wicked ones will act wickedly, and none of the wicked will understand; but those having insight will understand." (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. )

      One can reason on the timing of the end by applying the Bible Principle found at (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) to other scriptures. For instance, “Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until after we have sealed the slaves of our God in their foreheads.” (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) When did this sealing event begin? On Pentecost 33 CE with the outpouring of Holy Spirit. We can expect this sealing process to be completed by the second day of 2033 CE. This would suggest that the preaching work and the partaking of the emblems would soon come to their end since the sealing is 'a timed event'. This sets us up for Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. to begin, does it not?

      Jesus replied to them: “Tear down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” As shown at Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. , Jesus was using figurative speech; he was comparing his anticipated death and resurrection to the demolition and reconstruction of the temple. Although Jesus said: “I will raise it up,” the Scriptures clearly show that it was God who resurrected him. (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) So what body was Jesus speaking about? "But he was talking about the temple of his body." Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. )

      The temple of his body is the 'Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ' which is a composite body that is made up of 144,000 body members who rule as kings and priests. "Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and they will rule as kings with him for the 1,000 years." (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. )
        "Now you are Christ’s body, and each of you individually is a member." (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) "Do you not know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that the spirit of God dwells in you? (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. )
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    • By BroRando
      Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. What to expect? You can expect a ton of persons to become immediately interested in the Bible, once we stop offering New Bible Studies. The time to think about it a little longer will have come to its end. "And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come." (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. )   Jesus in private told his disciples, "For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. For as they were in those days before the Flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and they took no note until the Flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be." (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. )   Notice Jesus compared the days of Noah to his Presence, they took no note until the Flood came and swept them all away. Therefore, we can conclude that both Prophecies are 'timed events'. Time and again Jesus kept reminding his disciples just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. How long were the days of Noah? Then Jehovah said: “My spirit will not tolerate man indefinitely, because he is only flesh. Accordingly, his days will amount to 120 years.” (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. )   We can be certain to expect a plethora of events to unfold in a timely manner at the end of Christ's Presence, sweeping the ungodly away, but not in the manner you think...   Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Proclamation of “Peace and security!” Nations attack and destroy “Babylon the Great” Attack on Jehovah’s people War of Armageddon Satan and his demons are abyssed   Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
    • By BroRando
      The 40 year refinement period is a Biblical Pattern that has been used over and over again. This 'period of testing' is a purity test to bring out impurities or help build up faith. It can also be used in referring judgement in a positive or negative outcome. In some cases, the period can be days rather than years. Moses, Elijah, and Jesus all fasted for 40 days. However, a 40 year refinement period in triplicate intensifies the seriousness of the judgment coming for those unable or unwilling to be refined. For example, the intensity of the 'woes' to come to those dwelling on earth is forecast by the triple repetition of the declaration “woe.”—Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.   Can each "woe" represent a 40 year period of refinement? If it does, can we expect the 'woes' to come to their end? Brother Russell referred to the end of the Gentiles in 1914 to be followed by 'a time of trouble'. So wouldn't the time of trouble have a beginning and an end to them? (1914 + 120 = 2034) When 'the time of trouble' ends, then what?  Ever since 1914, Satan has been building his organization on earth 'to go out to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty.' (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) This organization was first called the League of Nations, then was revived by Satan as the United Nations today. So how are the kings of the entire inhabited earth being gathered? By Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. .   17 Goals to Transform Our World, the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development. The Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. are a call for action by all countries – poor, rich and middle-income – to promote prosperity while protecting the planet. They recognize that ending poverty must go hand-in-hand with strategies that build economic growth and address a range of social needs including education, health, social protection, and job opportunities, while tackling climate change and environmental protection." Therefore the prophecy, "It puts under compulsion all people—the small and the great, the rich and the poor, the free and the slaves—that these should be marked on their right hand or on their forehead, and that nobody can buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name" at (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) will have come in Full Force. A door to door enforcement if need be.   Soon, the 'woes' will come to their end and the demons will shout with glee! The Great Tribulation begins with propaganda of an outbreak of “Peace and security!” Satan's earthly kings will be astounded and take credit for this false hope as they enter into everlasting destruction, like that of Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. At this point in time, invisible to the human eye, Jesus separates the sheep from the goats, extending his Father's Life Force to the sheep Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. . The faithful keep on living from Satan's System into Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. the wicked die off in the same manner as Adam and Eve with a shortened life span. "All the peoples of the earth will have to See that Jehovah’s name has been called upon you, and they will be afraid of you." (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) Those looking back can lament all they want, but unknown to themselves, are dying the second death of everlasting destruction, having no Recourse and will finally come to know it!   2034 is not an end all date either, the separation work and the summoning of the anointed remnant will cover a little time as our brothers and sisters become survivors of the Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  The Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. have reach their end. There is a point in time coming that a Survivor may even Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  on a Paradise earth? More study is required as such ones are not given life within themselves but rather everlasting life in view. In time we will know. (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. )   Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
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      Preaching the Good News of God's Kingdom in Satan's World often brings a hostile and violent reaction from the unfaithful and lawless one. If this is how they react when the Good News of God's Kingdom is declared, how do you think they will react to Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  is delivered? Soon, those who reject the Good News will have no recourse.

      As the 
      Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  come to their End you can apply the following scripture, "Let the one who is unrighteous continue in unrighteousness, and let the filthy one continue in his filth; but let the righteous one continue in righteousness, and let the holy one continue in holiness." (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) With this timed revelation, the good news will no longer be offered but rather 'a turning away from ungodly mankind'. (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) Therefore, those who have been Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  will be dying the second death in the same manner as Adam and Eve.

      The Fulfillment of Prophecies are 'a timed event' and so there is no need for me to persuade or convince the reader if they have not yet gained 'Spiritual Insight' at this late stage of Satan's System of things. The scriptures are clear about the time of the end. "Many will cleanse themselves and whiten themselves and will be refined. And the wicked ones will act wickedly, and none of the wicked will understand; but those having insight will understand." (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. )

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      "During that time {Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. } will stand up, the Great Prince who is standing in behalf of your people. And there will occur a time of distress such as has not occurred since there came to be a nation until that time. And during that time your people will escape, everyone who is found written down in the book. And many of those asleep in the dust of the earth will wake up, some to everlasting life and others to reproach and to everlasting contempt." (Daniel 12:1-2)

      "And war broke out in heaven: {Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. } battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them any longer in heaven." (Rev 12:7-8)

      The Scriptures also point out that Michael was sent and given the name to the glory of God the Father. "Keep this mental attitude in you that was also in Christ Jesus, who, although he was existing in God’s form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God. No, but he emptied himself and took a slave’s form and became human." (Philippians 2:5-7)

      Yes, this very angel would be given the name to the glory of God the Father and have his Father's Name in him. “I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, watch over them on account of your own name, which you have given me, so that they may be one just as we are one."(John 17:11)

      "More than that, when he came as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death, yes, death on a torture stake. For this very reason, God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the Name that is above every other name, so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend—of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground— and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father." (Philippians 2:8-11) The Name (Jesus) when translated means “Jehovah Is Salvation.”

      Matter of fact, Jesus told his Opposers, "For I say to you, you will by no means see me from now until you say, ‘Blessed is the one who comes in Jehovah’s name!’” (Matthew 23:39)

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      The Four Horsemen are the Manifestations of Christ's Presence for all to SEE. "For just as the lightning comes out of the east and shines over to the west, so the PRESENCE of the Son of man will be." (
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      They are part of the Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  Jesus answered to the question, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?” (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. )

      The Manifestation of Christ's Presence was for All to Witness! "For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another.  All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress." (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) "Another came out, a fiery-colored horse, and it was granted to the one seated on it to take peace away from the earth so that they should slaughter one another, and he was given a great sword. (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. )

      And I saw, and look! a pale horse, and the one seated on it had the name Death. And the Grave was closely following him. And authority was given them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with a long sword and with food shortage and with deadly plague and by the wild beasts of the earth. "(Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) "There will be great earthquakes, and in one place after another food shortages and pestilences; and there will be fearful sights and from heaven great signs." (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. )

      During this Manifestation Period, all inhabitants of the earth are affected. (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) Even God's Named People (aka) Jehovah's Witnesses are not immune to these affects. Walk by faith brothers and sisters to your end and your life will be without end. How will this Manifestation Phase come to an end? Keep reading...

      The first horse is a white one and Jesus Christ is the Rider. His conquest at the beginning is also part of the Manifestation Phase of his Presence but a Revelation towards the end of his conquest. "And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare to those who dwell on the earth, to every nation and tribe and tongue and people." (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) "And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come." (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. )

      WTS Quote: "The days of Noah” actually covered a period of years, so there is basis for the understanding that the foretold “presence [or “days”] of the Son of man” would likewise cover a period of years. Like Noah’s days, which climaxed with the Flood, “the presence of the Son of man” would culminate in the destruction of those who do not seek deliverance."

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      After Jesus Christ summoned his 12 disciples and giving them authority to cure every sort of disease and every sort of infirmity, he revealed to them, "Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword." (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. )

      As distressing as pestilences are, they are part of the Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  of Jesus Christ Presence in Kingdom Glory. (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) Pestilences were often used in the past to execute divine judgment but also salvation to those who know Jehovah God and obey the good news of Jesus Christ today. "This takes into account that it is righteous on God’s part to repay tribulation to those who make tribulation for you." (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. )

      This is Good News for the obedient and the faithful in rejoicing, for Jesus adds the words: “But as these things start to occur, raise yourselves erect and lift your heads up, because your deliverance is getting near.” (Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) As pestilence becomes a common place in this last hour of this system of things, Jehovah Witnesses are fully cooperating with health officials in all nations in an effort to contain the spread of the coronavirus. This virus is severely contagious which will affect how we conduct Bible Studies, the preaching work, and even Baptizing New Christian Believers. Such adjustments are welcomed and we look forward to Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  as this gloomy system of things come to its end. But the end is Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.

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      Being a student of Prophecy and intently studying the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, 1914 is only the beginning of the end. “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. ?All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.” (Matthew 24:7-8)
      In 1914 the world as we know it, has entered into its death throes.  God’s Kingdom would slowly begin crushing all kingdoms of the earth. (Daniel 2:44)  Those inhabiting the earth would enter into an ‘allotted amount of time of distress'. “During that time Michael will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of your people. And there will occur a time of distress such as has not occurred since there came to be a nation until that time. And during that time your people will escape, everyone who is found written down in the book.” (Daniel 12:1)
      What is causing this ‘time of distress’?  “And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled ?but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them any longer in heaven.” (Rev 12:7-8)  “Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing that he has a short period of time.” (Rev 12:12)  Here’s an important teaching from Jesus Christ, he stated, “For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be.” (Matthew 24:37)  Did you catch that?  So the presence of the Son of man will be.  Jesus Christ has been ruling from Heaven since 1914 and he compared his presence like the days of Noah!  Few people understand this, but the Days of Noah lasted 120 years. (Genesis 6:3)  Jesus continues, “For as they were in those days before the Flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, ?and they took no note until the Flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be.” (Matthew 24:38-39)  Folks, the presence of the Son of man is now 103 years from 1914 and counting.  Yet, the World is taking no note.
      The Last Days must reach their full time allotted, which is 120 years.  1914 + 120 = 2034.   Since the Great Tribulation is Spiritual, many will  fall away from the faith. But it’s during this time period that the one’s separated to the right hand of Christ, will come out of the Great Tribulation as Survivors.  In response one of the elders said to me: “These who are dressed in the white robes, who are they and where did they come from?” (Rev 7:13)
      So right away I said to him: “My lord, you are the one who knows.” And he said to me: “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.” (Rev 7:14)  “Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.” (Matthew 24:42)
      Armageddon is an act of undeserved kindness of removing the wicked by means of the second death.  Soon, those outside our interior rooms will be dying the second death in the same manner as Adam and Eve. 
       
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