The Days of Distress are coming to their end...

[Dmitar]

5 hours ago, Witness said:

Nice, you cited  the scriptures.  Now,

Yes, now interpret it the right way. Don't add to scripture, as it has become common here. What are those components within the U.N.?

Which governments will have a greater influence? 

[Witness]

46 minutes ago, Dmitar said:

Which governments will have a greater influence? 

None, because the interpretation is wrong.  

The Beast of Rev 13:1,2 receives spirit from a false prophet. (Rev 13:11,12,15)   What false prophet assisted in "giving breath" to the UN, creating its "image"?   

[Arauna]

6 hours ago, Dmitar said:

What are those components within the U.N.?

The UN is a corporation created by the leaders after WW2 to bring peace and security to the world.  It has worked towards this goal since 1945 and made several agreements with 193 nations which now are binding. All are bound by UN Agenda 2030 which is the plan for year 2030. It is like an image or plan in front of all the nations.  JWs identify it as the "image of the beast" which is scarlet and full of blasphemous names (because it wants to replace the government of Jehovah - do what only Jehovah has the power to do, to unite the entire globe and bring peace).  It looks just like the seven headed beast because the seventh head of the beast (anglo american worldpower and false prophet ) inspired its life.) The UN is an extension of the beast out of the sea. ... the world political system.

Most countries received money from the world bank or IMF (other corporations which work in tandem with the UN)  during these Covid times to pay for Covid 'sleevers" and most of the loans were predatory  which required full compliance with the UN goals - including the WHO..... which is the UN health organization .... also a corporation funded by other big corporations.  When USA withdrew their money from the WHO (under trump) the biggest donor turned out to be Gates foundation with all his other health alliances such as GAVI.  Central banks are corporations working with the UN and financed by old money. They want to institute the central banks as the only banks in future.... run with a central database which is already under construction. 

Many of the billionaires have charity foundations which sponsor UN goals and also sponsor NGOs and corporations in alliance with their goals -  it grows their billions into trillions because these corporations do their bidding.  These billionaires pay very little taxes to governments and their charity foundations get billions from governments to provide charity work in other countries such as vaccination programs etc. Their charities are like slush funds because they can spend their profits on furthering their own goals and world (UN goals)

The UN gained teeth when Billionaires started funding NGOs to promote UN plans in every country at local level.... negating the  federal laws in every country.  Land reform and reform for the environment has been pushed through over the last 20 years. Now they are removing all borders and other nationalistic ideas to create one world order as planned.  They want one mindset - obedience to their goals which will later also incorporate unconditional obedience to the beast (worship of the beast). The WEF two years ago (which comprises the richest global companies in the globe)_ came on board and during Covid has pushed through the "great reset" which is also in line with UN agenda 2030.

There are additional goals the WEF is pushing - such as the 4th industrial revolution which is also part of the US government goals.  This is why people like Schmidt and Kurzweil are now in key positions in the new government.  They will bring in the new transhumanist goals where human evolution is no longer left to natural selection but artificial MRNA and other therapies will take humankind into the new future where they will direct human evolution themselves..... 

Bible prophecy going into exact fulfillment. Things are going their way quite nicely.  Those that do not comply when they bring in the digital world ... those will not only be left behind but may be removed from society. All kinds of pressures will be exerted to get all humans to comply....... 

[Dmitar]

11 hours ago, Witness said:

None, because the interpretation is wrong. 

Whose interpretation. When you have the influence of false religion, and a power grab, who else can claim what those various components can. It would be silly to think that the USA will never see foreign boots in their soul ever again.

You have the beast with 7 heads and ten horns, then you have a beast with two horns that subdues the first. How will that be accomplished worldwide by a central player. The antichrist unifies. The King of the north are agents. The King of the south will become its foe. 

What is the worldwide collapse being experienced. Everything at once. Every component is setting itself up. There will be nowhere to hide, and the strongest man will cringe.

NIV Zeph 1:1-20

[Dmitar]

5 hours ago, Arauna said:

The UN is a corporation created by the leaders after WW2 to bring peace and security to the world.  It has worked towards this goal since 1945 and made several agreements with 193 nations which now are binding.

Seemingly. The League of Nations was developed first. However, you would be correct to say, the U.N. developed powers the League didn't.

5 hours ago, Arauna said:

Ws identify it as the "image of the beast" which is scarlet and full of blasphemous names (because it wants to replace the government of Jehovah - do what only Jehovah has the power to do, to unite the entire globe and bring peace).  It looks just like the seven headed beast because the seventh head of the beast (anglo american worldpower and false prophet ) inspired its life.) The UN is an extension of the beast out of the sea. ... the world political system.

I view this summation as components. There are various parts to its success.

5 hours ago, Arauna said:

Most countries received money from the world bank or IMF (other corporations which work in tandem with the UN)  during these Covid times to pay for Covid 'sleevers" and most of the loans were predatory  which required full compliance with the UN goals - including the WHO..... which is the UN health organization .... also a corporation funded by other big corporations.  When USA withdrew their money from the WHO (under trump) the biggest donor turned out to be Gates foundation with all his other health alliances such as GAVI.  Central banks are corporations working with the UN and financed by old money. They want to institute the central banks as the only banks in future.... run with a central database which is already under construction. 

This thought goes toward ability and influence. Which components will benefit the most?

5 hours ago, Arauna said:

The UN gained teeth when Billionaires started funding NGOs to promote UN plans in every country at local level.... negating the  federal laws in every country.  Land reform and reform for the environment has been pushed through over the last 20 years. Now they are removing all borders and other nationalistic ideas to create one world order as planned.  They want one mindset - obedience to their goals which will later also incorporate unconditional obedience to the beast (worship of the beast). The WEF two years ago (which comprises the richest global companies in the globe)_ came on board and during Covid has pushed through the "great reset" which is also in line with UN agenda 2030.

Would this apply to none democratic nations?

5 hours ago, Arauna said:

There are additional goals the WEF is pushing - such as the 4th industrial revolution which is also part of the US government goals.  This is why people like Schmidt and Kurzweil are now in key positions in the new government.  They will bring in the new transhumanist goals where human evolution is no longer left to natural selection but artificial MRNA and other therapies will take humankind into the new future where they will direct human evolution themselves..... 

I will direct you to my last post to witness. However, with the understanding all these hypotheses are to be seen as a concern to Christians without promoting fear, and prophecy. Christians should be aware, prophecy will be fulfilled even if they pass away. That is a promise directly claimed by God.

5 hours ago, Arauna said:

Bible prophecy going into exact fulfillment. Things are going their way quite nicely.  Those that do not comply when they bring in the digital world ... those will not only be left behind but may be removed from society. All kinds of pressures will be exerted to get all humans to comply....... 

This is why God gave man a choice. No Christian can force that choice on anyone. Noah's day had only 8 human survivors. Lot asked God to hold judgment upon those cities if he could find righteous people. The earth will continue to be inhabited regardless of the amount. That amount will grow with the resurrected. Nothing that is said now will change that. It's up to every man to decide.

[Arauna]

1 hour ago, Dmitar said:

League of Nations was developed first

Yes but according to bible prophecy in revelations it went down into the abyss during WW2 and came out with life given it by the 7th head of the beast.

[Arauna]

1 hour ago, Dmitar said:

Christians without promoting fear,

it is not a fearful thing.  We know that there will be a great tribulation but that Jehovah will step in at the right time - so it is NOT a fearful thing but time to lift up your head when one sees these things going into fulfillment.  These people are atheists and pretty nasty but we have nothing to fear at all!  we will suffer but if we rely on jehovah and remain faithful we know each one will finish the race successfully!

[Dmitar]

15 minutes ago, Arauna said:

Yes but according to bible prophecy in revelations it went down into the abyss during WW2 and came out with life given it by the 7th head of the beast.

Then you should agree there are "steps" to prophecy. Jehovah's Witnesses are too focused, when they should see the entire picture. The same ideology "witness" has. Yet, nothing matters, since Christians should already understand the outcome.

[Dmitar]

14 minutes ago, Arauna said:

it is not a fearful thing.  We know that there will be a great tribulation but that Jehovah will step in at the right time - so it is NOT a fearful thing but time to lift up your head when one sees these things going into fulfillment.  These people are atheists and pretty nasty but we have nothing to fear at all!  we will suffer but if we rely on jehovah and remain faithful we know each one will finish the race successfully!

Let's focus on the word "promote" and not change the content. Christians don't fear the inevitable. We welcome it. They just don't need to PROMOTE fear to have people comply. That goes on here by all that profess to be Christian. God gave man that choice. It should be promoted that way.

What does the image of the beast mean to a Christian believer? A step closer to prophecy. What does it mean to a none believer, just another day? 

[Arauna]

1 minute ago, Dmitar said:

They just don't need to PROMOTE fear to have people comply.

The secular authorities  has enough fear-mongering propaganda going to get people in fear-mode and to comply to their incoming fascistic future.  JWs do not preach hell-fire nor do we preach damnation but we do preach obedience to Jehovah's standards... and we have enough warnings in the bible to take this seriously!

 

[Arauna]

16 minutes ago, Dmitar said:

since Christians should already understand the outcome.

We understand the outcome but the steps to get there are just as interesting.  When you have been in the truth a long time, each new beam of light on a dark road gives one something to savor.  Prophecies - the bible says do not neglect prophecy.  Why?- this tells us where we are in the stream of time when we see things going into fulfillment and gets us excited about the future! We can lift our heads up! 

[Dmitar]

12 minutes ago, Arauna said:

The secular authorities  has enough fear-mongering propaganda going to get people in fear-mode and to comply to their incoming fascistic future.  JWs do not preach hell-fire nor do we preach damnation but we do preach obedience to Jehovah's standards... and we have enough warnings in the bible to take this seriously!

If secular authority promotes fear for submission, then Jehovah's Witnesses should follow? What are those warnings to a none believer that doesn't understand the first thing about scripture? When someone starts to watch a movie and halfway through the movie, another person comes in. How can the first person explain the ending when they both saw it? 

What would be the relevance of the first part?