The cartoon sketch below earlier posted by Jack Ryan, prompted me to pull up an old comment I had posted here. In light of one of the latest Watchtower study articles, “Do You Have the Facts”, I have added a few more thoughts. Well, probably more than a few.
Watchtower’s governing body member, Anthony Morris, stated that the “theocratic organization” receives its decisions or “decrees” from God. He comments,
“When that direction comes out to Branch committee members, or when it comes out to the congregations; If YOU WANT JEHOVAH’S BLESSING ON YOU as an individual or family, certainly as an elder or congregation, it’d be best to ask Jehovah to help you understand it, BUT OBEY THE DECISION.
In clashing contrast, Watchtower’s “Winning the Battle For Your Mind” states:
Keep in mind that Satan does not want you to think clearly or reason things out well. Why? Because propaganda “is likely to be most effective,” says one source, “if people . . . are discouraged from thinking critically.” (Media and Society in the Twentieth Century) So never be content passively or blindly to accept what you hear. (Prov. 14:15) Use your God-given thinking abilities and power of reason to make the truth your own. —Prov. 2:10-15;Rom. 12:1, 2.
Please DO read their choice of scriptures - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Prov+14%3A5%3B+Prov.+2%3A10-15%3BRom.+12%3A1%2C+2&version=CSB
The pendulum has swung the other way with this statement. Ah, but something important was omitted from the source’s quote, provided by someone on another forum:
"Therefore, it (propaganda) is likely to be most effective if people do not have access to multiple sources of information, and if they are discouraged from thinking critically.”
Satan’s ploy to keep us from thinking clearly or reasoning on another’s teachings or findings, is exactly Morris’ intentions when saying, OBEY, NO MATTER WHAT YOU FEEL. I think it’s clear to every JW why the magazine intentionally left out part of the quote.
Watchtower’s recent study article, “Do You Have the Facts?” states –
“AS TRUE Christians, we need to develop the ability to evaluate information and reach accurate conclusions. (Prov. 3:21-23; 8:4, 5) If we do not cultivate this ability, we will be far more vulnerable to the efforts of Satan and his world to distort our thinking. (Eph. 5:6; Col. 2:8) Of course, only if we have the facts can we reach right conclusions. As Proverbs 18:13 says, “when anyone replies to a matter before he hears the facts, it is foolish and humiliating.” August, 2018 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Prov.+3%3A21-23%3B+8%3A4%2C+5%3BEph.+5%3A6%3B+Col.+2%3A8%3B&version=CSB
JWs, where would you find facts to refute the obvious “propaganda” coming from the mouth of Anthony Morris? The Bible can help us discern what is true and false.
Jesus said to them, “Be careful! Watch out for the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees!” The disciples had been discussing among themselves that they had not taken any bread along. 7 The disciples had been discussing among themselves that they had not taken any bread along.
12 THEN they understood that he didn’t say to watch out for the yeast in bread, but to watch out for the TEACHINGS of the Pharisees and Sadducees. Matt 16:6,7,12
In this sense, leaven is used in a negative format. “Metaphor of inveterate mental and moral corruption, viewed in its tendency to infect others.”
Morris’ mixed messages that he and seven other men approved to be written in the above WT quotes, show them up as corrupt teachers, speaking “out of both sides of the mouth” and leaving JWs vulnerable to Satan’s lies. Jer 23:16 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jer+23%3A16&version=CSB
Morris continues, “This is a theocracy ruled by God, not a collection of man-made decisions. This is governed from heaven.”
This is utterly impossible, since the Governing Body admitted they are not inspired. (Wt. 2017/2 pp. 20-26, par. 12
Anthony Morris commented, “the decisions that are made by the faithful slave today, are made collectively. Not one MAN is making these decisions, these decisions are MADE COLLECTIVELY”.
Okay. They are man-made decisions, made collectively. Since the word, “decisions” is plural, we can safely say that under the lack of inspiration from Holy Spirit, ALL decisions made by the governing body, and that must be obeyed by JWs, MOST CERTAINLY ARE “A COLLECTION OF MAN-MADE DECISIONS”. This means the organization is NOT a theocracy ruled by God. Dan 11:27; Rev 13:11 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Dan+11%3A27%3B+Rev+13%3A11&version=CSB
“Now if any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God—who gives to all generously and ungrudgingly—and it will be given to him. But let him ask in faith without doubting. For the doubter is like the surging sea, driven and tossed by the wind. 7 That person should not expect to receive anything from the Lord, being double-minded and unstable in all his ways.“ James 1:5-8
Faith. Does the GB have faith in the Father? In Jesus? Or, do they have faith in themselves and their material assets? Uninspired men are proclaiming they are the channel used by God who governs the organization from heaven; and yet, it is through the inspiration of Holy Spirit that God would grant the understanding of His will, if our faith was in both the Father and Christ. Instead, the governing body fully put their faith in what they have built on this earth. John 14:15-17; Acts 17:29; 1 Pet 1:18,19; Col 2:8 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+14%3A15-17%3B+Acts+17%3A29%3B+1+Pet+1%3A18%2C19%3B+Col+2%3A8++&version=CSB
Is there really another “channel” aside from Holy Spirit? Yes, there is.
“For if a person comes and preaches another Jesus, whom we did not preach, or you receive a DIFFERENT SPIRIT, which you had not received, or a different gospel, which you had not accepted, you put up with it splendidly!” 2 Cor 11:4
“A good person produces good out of the good stored up in his heart. An EVIL person produces evil out of the evil stored up in his heart, for his mouth speaks from the overflow of the heart.” Luke 6:45
“As a face is reflected in water,
so a person is reflected by his heart.” Prov 27:19
Why are you given conflicting messages by “Jehovah’s organization”? Simply, evil takes the crooked path of confusion. Prov 2:12-15; Isa 19:14,15 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Prov+2%3A12-15%3B+Isa+19%3A14%2C15&version=CSB
There are two “vines” that produce a “wine” from their fruit.
Pearl Doxsey: From, “The "Garden of Eden" / New Creation / Seven Spirits / Tree of Life / The True Vine”
Jesus is the true "vine"...those anointed in union with him, are the "branches" (John15:4,5).
What they receive from Jesus the "nourishing sap" -Rom.11:17; Rev.22:16), is holy spirit (Rom.5:5).
The branches are to express that spirit (Luke6:45), as God (the "vine's cultivator -John15:1) has determined and distributed
(1Cor.12:4,11,18,28; 7:7; Eph.4:7; Heb.2:4).
Those branches are then expected to produce fruit (John15:2,6; Matt.7:19; Gal.5:22,25; Eph.4:29,12,16; Luke6:45,44)...which include sayings of life... fruit which is filled with that living water/holy spirit sourced in Christ, the true vine (Rev.22:17). Those who eat the fruit of the true vine and it's true branches, will live!
This is why, not only is Christ the Tree of Life,
his 144000 also are (Rev.22:1,2; John13:20).
The wicked slave produce “wine” made with bad “fruit” from a corrupted, wild vine. Under Satan’s influence, this evil slave is the only access for spiritual food; the GB members who “eat and drink with DRUNKARDS”. Matt 24:48-51; Rev 13:17
It is the “helpers” and elder body members who imbibe in, and distribute the Harlot’s wine to all JWs. Like the Pharisees’ yeast, The Harlot’s wine infects and corrupts the hearts of those who relish it. Jer 2:21; Ps 80:8; Isa 5:2,4; Deut 32:32-34; Rev 17:1-6 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt+24%3A48-51%3B+Rev+13%3A17%3BJer.2%3A21%3B++Psalm+80%3A8%3B+Isa.5%3A2%2C4%3B+Deut32%3A32%2C33%2C34%3B+Rev+17%3A1-6&version=CSB
“Inspiration” means inhalation; a drawing in of breath. The antonym is “exhalation” – the breath that leaves via the mouth. Since the governing body admit to not receiving “inspiration” from Holy Spirit , their gospel, the teachings they impart are s,ourced in another spirit and another type of “inspiration”. It fills the heart and overflows it, and sustains “Jehovah’s spirit-directed organization”. Jer 11:17; Isa 46:1,2,5-7; Acts 17:29; Rev 13:1,4,11,14-17 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jer+11%3A17%3B+Isa+46%3A1%2C2%2C5-7%3B+Acts+17%3A29%3B+Rev+13%3A1%2C4%2C11%2C14-17&version=CSB
“He (composite false prophet/Beast with two horns) was permitted to give a spirit (or give breath) to the image of the beast (organization), so that the image of the beast could both speak and cause whoever would not worship the image of the beast to be killed.” Rev 13:15 (John 20:22 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+20:22&version=CSB )
The Greek word for “image” can be interpreted as, “an image of the things (the heavenly things)”, and comes from the root, “eiko”, meaning to “to resemble – be like”. An image is a reflection of the real thing. God’s anointed priesthood reflect Heavenly Zion, where God and Christ dwell within the anointed heart. Gen 1:26; Rom 8:29; 2 Cor 3:18; Matt 5:48; 1 John 3:2; John 14:23; John 12:15; Heb 12:22; Rev 14:1 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Gen+1%3A26%3B+Rom+8%3A29%3B+2+Cor+3%3A18%3B+Matt+5%3A48%3B+1+John+3%3A2%3B+John+14%3A23%3B+John+12%3A15%3B+Heb+12%3A22%3B+Rev+14%3A1++&version=CSB
It is His only “organization” built on the Body of Christ. John 2:19-21; Mal 2:7; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 2 Cor 6:16; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+2%3A19-21%3B+Mal+2%3A7%3B+1+Pet+2%3A5%2C9%3B+2+Cor+6%3A16%3B+1+Cor+3%3A16%2C17%3B+Eph+2%3A20-22&version=CSB
In contrast, the image of the Beast is the elder body, which reflects “Jehovah’s mountainlike organization”, and is
A FALSE ZION - AN IDOL. Deut 5:8; Rom 1:25 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deut+5%3A8%3B+Rom+1%3A25&version=CSB
As the Man of Lawlessness, it publicizes “that he himself is God”. Hab 2:18; Isa 14:13,14; Zech 4:7; Rev 8:8 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hab+2%3A18%3B+Isa+14%3A13%2C14%3B+Zech+4%3A7%3B+Rev+8%3A8&version=CSB
“Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way. For that day will not come unless the apostasy (rebellion) comes first and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction. 4 He opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits in God’s sanctuary,(Temple) publicizing that he himself is God.” 2 Thess 2:3,4
(Ps 82:6; John 10:34,36; Gal 3:25,26) https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ps+82%3A6%3B+John+10%3A34%2C36%3B+Gal+3%3A25%2C26&version=CSB
WHO has been given authority to disfellowship those who reject the organization? WHAT IDENTITY “sits in God’s Temple”, ruling over the Temple anointed priests? Undoubtedly, it is the GB’s army, the elders “drunk” on the false prophet/Harlot’s wine. Matt 24:48-51; Joel 1:5-7; Rev 14:8 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt+24%3A48-51%3B+Joel+1%3A5-7%3B+Rev+14%3A8++&version=CSB
I hope you can see that the elder body has supplanted God’s Temple, becoming the blasphemous image of an IDOL – a counterfeit ZION.
“A mouth was given to him to speak boasts and blasphemies. He was also given authority to act (wage war/to rule) for 42 months. 6 He began to speak blasphemies against God: to blaspheme His name and His dwelling—those who dwell in heaven.” Rev 13:5,6
God’s faithful messengers/witnesses receive inspiration from Holy Spirit. Within the anointed Body, it is what teaches faithful priests. Mal 2:7; 1 John 2:20,27; John 14:26 There is no intermediator; no consulting in an interior room, behind closed doors, or voting on a “decree”. John 16:12-14; Matt 10:20; Luke 12:12; Matt 24:23-27 Instead, members of one anointed Body, built on the apostles and prophets work under one Spirit to “build each other up” in Truth. 1 Cor 6:17; 12:7,11,13; 1 Thess 5:11 They are like the “multiple sources” that the wicked slave encourages you to avoid. 2 Chron 15:3; Mal 2:7; John 13:20 They are “thrown out of the congregation”, spiritually “killed” for speaking the truth that resides in their heart. Luke 12:11,12; John 16:2; Rev 11:1-3,7 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mal+2%3A7%3B+1+John+2%3A20%2C27%3B+John+14%3A26%3B++John+16%3A12-14%3B+Matt+10%3A20%3B+Luke+12%3A12%3B+Matt+24%3A23-27%3B+1+Cor+6%3A17%3B+12%3A7%2C11%2C13%3B+2+Chron+15%3A3%3B+Mal+2%3A7%3B+John+13%3A20%3B+Luke+12%3A11%2C12%3B+John+16%3A2%3B+Rev+11%3A1-3%2C7++&version=CSB
The uninspired GB must rely on voting to pass their decrees, which all JWs must obey, even if their decrees are later considered errors in direction. Joel 1:18; The bottom line is, there is no leeway for JWs to cultivate their God-given thinking ability to “know the facts”. But you already know this, JWs. No matter what facts that YOU may arrive at, they mean nothing if they are not the governing body’s “facts”. All other facts, as well as all other teachings by anointed ones are considered “poor quality”. Your well-regulated spiritual commerce was predicted to occur in these last days. Ezek 4:10-13;Amos 8:11; Rev.6:5,6; 13:16,17 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezek+4%3A10-13%3BAmos+8%3A11%3B+Rev.6%3A5%2C6%3B+13%3A16%2C17+&version=CSB
“If you died with Christ to the elements of this world, why do you live as if you still belonged to the world? Why do you submit to regulations: “Don’t handle, don’t taste, don’t touch”? All these regulations refer to what is destined to perish by being used up; they are human commands and doctrines. Although these have a reputation for wisdom by promoting self-made religion, false humility, and severe treatment of the body, they are not of any value in curbing self-indulgence.” Col 2:20-23
Could the scriptures be any clearer? JWs are part of the world by engaging in the deceptive teachings and fleshly rules of men. Their “wisdom” is sourced in another spirit, another vine than Christ. They have “gone out” to pursue all that Satan’s world offers, including power and dominance over God’s people. Isa 51:23; James 3:15 On the other hand, the faithful anointed who have “died” at the hands of the wicked slave’s drunkards, are receiving “rain in due season”. I implore JWs, speak out bravely against the double-tongued teachings, and FLEE! Lev 26:3,4; Isa 55:10,11; James 5:7; Ps 26:4,5; Matt 24:14-16; Isa 2:2,3 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isa+51%3A23%3B+James+3%3A15%3B+Lev+26%3A3%2C4%3B+Isa+55%3A10%2C11%3B+James+5%3A7%3B+Ps+26%3A4%2C5%3B+Matt+24%3A14-16%3B+Isa+2%3A2%2C3&version=CSB
“Now God has revealed these things to us by the Spirit, since the Spirit searches everything, even the depths of God. For who knows a person’s thoughts except his spirit within him? In the same way, no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
Now we have not received the spirit of the world, but the spirit who comes from God, so that we may understand what has been freely given to us by God.
We also speak these things, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual things to spiritual people.
But the person without the Spirit (the uninspired governing body) does not receive what comes from the God’s Spirit, because it is foolishness to him; he is not able to understand it since it is evaluated spiritually.
The spiritual person, (one individual) however, can evaluate everything, and yet he himself cannot be evaluated by anyone. 1 Cor 2:10-15
Following and obeying men and their teachings who pass decrees devoid of Holy Spirit, yet hypocritically say these decrees are “governed from heaven”, are blinded by the true source of the deceiving spirit that guides them. John 8:44; Matt 15:14 By accepting these hypocritical teachings, the hearer is also receiving a “different spirit”, the fruit of a rogue vine filled with “wormwood’s waters”. Heb 12:15;Rev 8:11 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+8%3A44%3B+Matt+15%3A14%3B++Heb+12%3A15%3BRev+8%3A11&version=CSB
Yet, JWs put up with it – “splendidly”. 2 Cor 11:4 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+8%3A44%3B+Matt+15%3A14%3B++Rev+8%3A11%3B+2+Cor+11%3A4&version=CSB
It isn’t easy standing up for Truth as Christ did, but many leaving the organization are in pursuit of “living water”. It is contingent on our personal desire and motivation to serve God with a clear mind and a clean heart. Matt 5:10; John 12:25; John 4:10; Ps 26:5; 119:9-11; Jer 17:9,10
Please, apply Jesus’ words to help you discern good “fruit” spoken by those whom Jesus sends. He wouldn’t send anyone that provides you with fruit/teachings filled with obvious contradictions, already rotting on the vine and soon to be replaced. Matt 7:15-20; Luke 6:43-45; 1 Pet 3:10; 3 John 11 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt+5%3A10%3B+John+12%3A25%3B+John+4%3A10%3B+Ps+26%3A5%3B+119%3A9-11%3B+Jer+17%3A9%2C10%3B+Matt+7%3A15-20%3B+Luke+6%3A43-45%3B+1+Pet+3%3A10%3B+3+John+11+++&version=CSB
Anthony Morris has made internet headlines with this one deceiving statement:
"STICK WITH WHAT WE AUTHORIZE, AND YOU WILL BE SAFE."
See Jer 23:17; 1 Thess 5:3; Prov 29:25 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=+Jer+23%3A17%3B+1+Thess+5%3A3%3B+Prov+29%3A25&version=CSB
He went into all the vicinity of the Jordan, proclaiming a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins, 4 as it is written in the book of the words of the prophet Isaiah:
A voice of one crying out in the wilderness:
Prepare the way for the Lord;
make his paths straight!
5 Every valley will be filled,
and every mountain and hill will be made low;
the crooked will become straight,
the rough ways smooth,
6 and everyone will see the salvation of God.
7 He then said to the crowds who came out to be baptized by him, “Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath? 8 Therefore produce fruit consistent with repentance. And don’t start saying to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father,’ for I tell you that God is able to raise up children for Abraham from these stones. 9 The ax is already at the root of the trees. Therefore, every tree that doesn’t produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.” Luke 3:3-9
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By JOHN BUTLER
TTH seems to think i hate the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. I presume he reasons that because i find fault with them then i must hate them.
So, a question. Did Jesus hate the Pharisees ?
Jesus certainly found fault with them and showed them up for what they were.
Any thoughts ?
Has the Governing Body of Jehovah's WItnesses Put Themselves in the Place Of Jesus Christ as Mediator Between God and Men?By TrueTomHarley
How many of them do you want answered?
We went round and round on a prior thread and you just repackage your questions and run them through again.
The verse says: ‘Taste and see that Jehovah is good.’ If you tasted and saw that he was bad, what can I say? Check your taste buds. But you can just as easily say it to me.
It may be that you should be praying to The LORD. It is the GB that brings God’s name to the fore, nearly everyone else seeks to bury it, and you have made clear that you don’t trust the GB as far as you can spit.
By James Thomas Rook Jr.
CAN A PERSON ... OR SHOULD A PERSON …. BE DISFELLOWSHIPPED IN ABSTENSIA?
Here is the situation ..... a person REPORTED to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses is accused, and NOT convicted ( ... because he is a fugitive from Justice ...) .....
Apparently he was at one time in a "Position Of Authority", which possibly alludes to his being an "Elder", and he may have relocated to another State or even another Country. Possibly using an alias.
The various Congregation Elders cannot find him, the Society cannot find him, and the U.S. Marshal's Service cannot find him.
Not having any indication to the contrary ... at least from the information given in the pseudo-Wanted Poster shown above, he is possibly still officially one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
Whether he is or not, his bad example raises an interesting aspect of trying to figure out how the disfellowshipping "system" protocol actually works.
Can any of the Congregations he went to disfellowship him without his being present to answer charges ?
... and SHOULD he be?
By Jack Ryan
Did You Know?
You can openly and publicly question if the President of the United States is fit for office. You can question his policies, his statements, and his character. Your family and friends will not be taken away from you.
You can openly and publicly question the policies, fitness for office, statements, and character of governors, senators, congressmen, judges, and various other politicians and leaders in the United States. Your family and friends will not be taken away from you.
If you believe in a god, you can pray to your god questioning his authority, ability to rule, his decisions, and his purpose. When you open your eyes, you will find that your family and friends have not and will not be taken away from you.
Jesus had his authority questioned many times. (Matt. 21: 23-27) According to the Bible, he would have had the power to punish those questioning him. Yet, he did nothing to them. He harmed no one physically or emotionally.
You can confidentially question the ability to lead, the validity, the teachings, the doctrines and policies of the Governing Body to only two family members or close companions. Your family and friends WILL be taken away from you. You will be labeled as dead, evil, and mentally diseased. You can and will likely lose all the social connections and relationships you have developed over a lifetime.
Only absolute dictators take away the rights of those they rule if their authority is questioned. Look at the examples of Stalin, Hitler, Bashar al-Assad, and Kim Jong Un.
The Governing Body today will attend court hearings in other countries rejoicing when freedoms are granted to their followers. They will organize letter writing campaigns to lobby for religious freedoms of Jehovah's Witnesses. They will take legal arguments to the highest courts to fight for the rights of the organization that they govern. Yet, all it takes for you to lose all of your freedoms to be with your very own family is the admission to enough witnesses that you no longer believe the Governing Body are chosen by God and have authority over you.
Did You Know? The Governing Body will fight tooth and nail for their own perceived freedoms, but they have no problems taking away your own freedoms and declaring you dead if you dare to question them.
By James Thomas Rook Jr.
As my wife and I are preparing to adopt five children, and knowing historically how many elders' children have abandoned the Truth, for whatever reasons there might be, common to mankind ... the thought occurred to me ... Were all of the Apostles Single?
If any were married, how did they balance their responsibilities to their families, with the field ministry?
If they were in the Ministry, were they supported by the congregations from the Apostles money box ... and were their families also supported as they rove about ministering about the Good News?
If so, that would indicate a paid clergy !
I suppose it all hinges on he first question.
WERE ALL OF THE APOSTLES SINGLE ?
By James Thomas Rook Jr.
Which Pill Would We Take ..... The Red Pill? .... or the Blue Pill?
In the political world, more and more people are rejecting "Fake News" as provided by CNN (Clinton News Network), ABC (All 'bout Clinton) and NBC (Nothin' but Clinton), etc., and are seeking the truth about what they are being told ..... wherever it may be found.
Today John Stossel had an article about this on Foxnews which is incredibly important ... not only for the political ramifications ... but every manner of philosophical thought .... and our very view of how the Universe works, and what "makes it tick".
If you have seen the movie "The Matrix" .... a MUST SEE movie .... you already know the common expression "Red Pill? Blue Pill?".
If you don't ... YOU SHOULD.
The concept behind the expression is incredibly important ... as to whether we live in and artificial fantasy construct world ... or a world of what is actually REAL.
JOHN STOSSEL: More people tuning out mainstream media, embracing 'truth'
Oh ... and if you have not seen it .... get a copy of the movie, so you will actually get a "feel" for the depth of the now commonly understood idiomatic expression.
(For those in Rio Linda, that has nothing to do with sex, it has to do with basic understanding .....)
By Noble Berean
The February 2017 WT had this to say about the GB:
Compare this to the November 2016 WT which had this to say about the GB's authority:
The GB wants the unquestioned control and the credit for leading God's organization, but they also wants total freedom from accountability when they are wrong. The existence of the org is based around everyone accepting this premise.
But how is this premise not 100% illogical and absurd? The GB is presenting itself in 2 completely conflicting ways:
The GB is uninspired, fallible, and errs, so they should not be blamed for incorrect direction. The GB should not be questioned by JWs, and there is no place for independent thinking. The GB cannot state they make errors in their direction and simultaneously demand unquestioned obedience to their direction. That doesn't make any sense. If anything, JWs should be skeptical of the GB's directions because of their history of incorrect direction. However, critical thinking is discouraged as a negative trait in organization literature--even when that thinking is based on the Bible.
If there is a God, then surely he is just, and I cannot imagine he would structure an organization on such an illogical premise.
Think of how this premise negatively affects JWs. Adherents are essentially commanded to follow direction that may be 100% wrong. They are told to "wait on Jehovah" if they have doubts. This also means that a JW could be punished for having a correct idea that is currently not in harmony with the GB. I'm sure this has happened with JWs over its history.
Also, isn't it disturbing that the GB have set things up so that they have maximum control and minimum accountability? It's the definition of plausible deniability. Everyone here is well aware of the legal issues with blood transfusion rejection and the sex abuse. In these legal matters, it is pretty clear that the organization is distancing themselves from any accountability and is instead placing the burden on the individual JW. This flies in the face of the culture of the religion where everything a JW does revolves around supporting the organization. There is no room for personal opinion. To suggest otherwise in legal cases is very dishonest and shady. Moreover, it goes against the idea that their is an equal relationship--we're supposed to die over organizational doctrines but the GB won't even acknowledge their role in court proceedings?
The very fact the organization uses plausible deniability in their literature is highly suspect. The fact that they can force JWs to follow their direction, but when it's wrong they can point to a WT and say, "See! We said we were fallible and uninspired!" It all smells dishonest and shady.
By The Librarian
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Jehovah's Witnesses began capitalizing Governing Body as a proper noun in 1971;The Watchtower that year announced "The present Governing Body comprises eleven anointed witnesses of Jehovah." The original members of the 1971 Governing Body, all now deceased, are indicated in italics in the lists below.
The following people are members of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses (year appointed in parentheses): Samuel Herd (1999) Geoffrey Jackson (2005) M. Stephen Lett (1999) Gerrit Lösch (1994) Anthony Morris III (2005) Mark Sanderson (2012) David H. Splane (1999) Kenneth Cook (2018) Deceased
The following individuals were members of the Governing Body until death (years active in parentheses, including years as Watch Tower Society directors, informally identified as the "governing body" prior to 1971): Carey W. Barber (1977–2007) John (Jack) Barr (1977–2010) William Lloyd Barry (1974–1999) John C. Booth (1974–1996) Charles J. Fekel (1974–1977) Frederick William Franz (1944–1992)—5th President of Watch Tower Society George D. Gangas (1971–1994) John O. Groh (1965–1975) Milton George Henschel (1947–2003)—6th President of Watch Tower Society William K. Jackson (1971–1981) Theodore Jaracz (1974–2010) Karl F. Klein (1974–2001) Nathan Homer Knorr (1940–1977)—4th President of Watch Tower Society Guy H. Pierce (1999-2014) Martin Pötzinger (1977–1988) Albert D. Schroeder (1974–2006) Grant Suiter (1938–1983) Thomas J. Sullivan (1932–1974) Lyman Alexander Swingle (1945–2001) Daniel Sydlik (1974–2006) Resigned
The following individuals resigned or were asked to step down from their positions in the body (years active in parentheses): Ewart Chitty (1974–1979) Raymond Franz (1971–1980) Leo K. Greenlees (1971–1984)
”Jehovah leads and feeds those in the earthly part of his organization by means of “the faithful and discreet slave” under the direction of Christ, the “head of the congregation.” w16 November pp. 14-18
If these men were “inspired”, the above statement would be true. It takes inspiration from Holy Spirit, for them to receive Christ’s direction. Spirit must be infused in the person to guide them in the way of Christ; but we have it in print, that it is not the case with the GB. 1 John 2:4; 1 John 3:24
Instead, they rely on the voting system. It once was a required two-thirds majority in favor of passing new rules or doctrine; which at least you could understand that individuals had the freedom to reject an idea; although I was shocked that voting was even considered. Now, the GB must be 100 percent in agreement when passing new rules/doctrine.
How many teachings of past leaders have been rejected by today’s leaders? How far back does it go, that Wt’s leaders were not inspired? Whether two-thirds or 100 percent needed to agree on doctrine by men admitting to not having inspiration, it is apparent that it began with Russell.
Maybe this new GB member is not rule-oriented, but it really doesn’t matter. He must go with the flow, and it may be a rude awakening for him.
These scriptures have spiritual fulfillment today:
“Jesus called them over and said, “You know that the rulers (elder body) of the Gentiles (those not anointed) lord it over them,
and those in high positions (GB) act as tyrants over them.
It must not be like that among you. On the contrary, whoever wants to become great among you (among the anointed chosen Body of Christ, since Jesus was speaking to his future apostles) must be your servant*, and whoever wants to be first among you must be your slave*; just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.” Matt 20:25-28
*This is not the practice with the GB. They authorize their appointed rulers (elder body) to judge their fellow anointed slaves as not worthy of spiritual life. Are they serving their brothers in Christ, or condemning them through acts of tyranny? Matt 24:48-51; 1 John 2:9-11; James 2:4 Uninspired men fabricate rules and doctrine that every JW must obey, and it is called guidance from God through Christ – or from a “spirit-directed organization”. I imagine in my mind a looming spiritual power within the world since that is where it is physically built and seen, breathing a spirit, but not from the Almighty God. 1 John 2:15-17; Eph 2:1,2; Rev 13:11-15
Without holy inspiration, in what manner does God and Christ guide the organization? The GB? The members? It can be said a thousand times that God directs the organization, the “faithful slave”, the elder body – yet one slip of truth will wipe out each and every one of those false claims. That being, the Governing Body is not inspired by Holy Spirit; and if they are not inspired by God's spirit, neither is the organization. 1 John 2:27,18,19; Mal 3:18; Matt 24:4,5
By The Librarian
Kenneth Cook was announced today at morning worship as the new member of the Governing Body.
He was formerly a helper on the writing committee.
He is an anointed brother in bethel that about 3 years ago got assigned to Writing Correspondence from Bethel Office in Wallkill.
He is not a rule oriented brother at all. Definitely a people person, a pleasurable brother. Makes people around him feel relaxed an at ease.
Brother Cook started pioneering on September 1, 1982, and began serving at the United States branch on October 12, 1984.
He has been in Bethel his entire life evidently. No children.
The Governing Body is now composed of eight anointed brothers.
For more about the Governing Body see:
I will update this list of members here:
“And Jesus said to him, “Foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay His head.” Matt 8:20
"Woe to him who builds his palace by unrighteousness,
his upper rooms by injustice,
making his own people work for nothing,
not paying them for their labor.
14 He says, ‘I will build myself a great palace
with spacious upper rooms.’
So he makes large windows in it,
panels it with cedar
and decorates it in red.
15 “Does it make you a king
to have more and more cedar?
Did not your father have food and drink?
He did what was right and just,
so all went well with him.
16 He defended the cause of the poor and needy,
and so all went well.
Is that not what it means to know me?”
declares the Lord.
17 “But your eyes and your heart
are set only on dishonest gain,
on shedding innocent blood
and on oppression and extortion.” Jer 22:13-17
Jehovah's Witnesses put former Brooklyn Heights hotel up for sale
By Lore Croghan
Brooklyn Daily Eagle
Attention nostalgic Brooklyn Dodgers fans!
The Jehovah's Witnesses are selling the former Brooklyn Heights hotel where the forever-missed baseball team stayed during home games.
The Watchtower has just announced it is putting The Towers, also known as 21 Clark St., up for sale.
The Dodgers, who in the 1950s infamously left Brooklyn for Elsewhere (to this day, some of us find this trauma hard to write about), used the hotel as their home base, so to speak.
The 313,768-square-foot, 16-story building is now a residence for the Jehovah's Witnesses — but not for much longer.
The religious organization is liquidating its once-massive Brooklyn Heights and DUMBO real-estate holdings because it is moving its headquarters to upstate Warwick, NY.
The Leverich Towers Hotel, as 21 Clark was originally known, had its grand opening in 1928. The architecture firm was Starrett & Van Vleck — which also designed Saks Fifth Avenue's and Lord & Taylor's high-profile Manhattan flagship stores.
“When you walk the streets of Brooklyn Heights and come alongside The Towers, the elegance of the building commands your attention,” Watchtower spokesman David Semonian said in the announcement about the building's sale.
“Yet beyond the beauty that we have worked hard to tastefully preserve, The Towers has been a comfortable home for members of our headquarters staff for decades,” he said.
'The Aristocrat of Brooklyn Hotels'
The former hotel, which is located on the corner of Willow Street, is located in the landmarked part of Brooklyn Heights. So a purchaser is likely to leave the exterior of the stunning building — which has colonnaded, Venetian-style towers gracing its four corners — largely intact.
In the property's early days, it was advertised as “The Aristocrat of Brooklyn Hotels.”
A rooftop terrace with knockout views of Lower Manhattan, New York Harbor and the Brooklyn Bridge that helped give the hotel its cachet remains intact.
In 1975, the Watchtower bought the magnificent building for $1,992,229.08 from a trust with Leo Rosner and Philip Robbins as trustees, city Finance Department records indicate.
Following the purchase, the Watchtower turned the hotel into a residence and dining hall for more than 1,000 people who worked at the organization's world headquarters.
Another Watchtower spokesman, Richard Devine, said the Jehovah's Witnesses were expanding their printing plants at that time and needed space to accommodate increasing numbers of personnel.
The Jehovah's Witnesses did a more extensive renovation of The Towers starting in 1995, Devine added.
The Watchtower has been working for the past several years to sell off its Brooklyn real estate portfolio. The latest round of marketing started this past December.
Vincent Viola, the owner of the Florida Panthers hockey team, recently bought Brooklyn Heights residential property 124 Columbia Heights for $105 million.
Donald Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner has a handshake deal to buy the Watchtower's Brooklyn Heights headquarters at 25-30 Columbia Heights plus DUMBO development site 85 Jay St. for roughly $700 million, the New York Post has reported.
By James Thomas Rook Jr.
From the Newspaper the “San Diego Reader” - October 12, 2017
Jehovah's Witnesses look in other direction
Lawyers for religious group argue against daily fines in sex-abuse case
By Dorian Hargrove, Oct. 12, 2017
Attorneys for the Jehovah's Witness church appeared before a state appellate court yesterday (October 11) in hopes of overturning the $4000 daily sanctions that a trial court ordered them to pay for refusing to turn over documents in one of two sex-abuse cases.
Osbaldo Padron, a former parishioner of the Linda Vista Jehovah's Witness congregation, filed his lawsuit against the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, Jehovah’s Witnesses’ governing body, in 2013. Padron was one of seven people who sued the kingdom over sexual abuse they suffered by a former church elder, Gonzalo Campos.
As detailed in an August 30 Reader article, Campos admitted to molesting seven children from 1982 to 1999. Despite his admission, church elders agreed to let Campos rejoin the congregation after a four-year expulsion.
In a 1999 letter, Linda Vista church elder Eduardo Chavez argued for reinstating Campos. He wrote, “In our meeting with him he said he was very repentant for what he did. He stated that he wanted to return to Jehovah. He is willing to face the victims and ask their forgiveness. He now wants to obey Jehovah. Before, when he would speak to people on the platform he would not meditate on what he was doing. Although he needed to confess, he felt shameful and had fear of mankind. He would deceive himself thinking that he could continue serving as an elder. Now he realized that he could not change without help. Ever since his expulsion he has not abused anyone."
In 2010, five victims sued the Watchtower for allowing Campos to serve as an elder despite having knowledge that he molested several children in the congregation. Watchtower settled that case in 2012. The terms of the settlement as well as the evidence against the Watchtower were sealed.
Two more victims, Padron and José Lopez, followed suit.
In 2013, San Diego Superior Court judge Joan Lewis ordered Watchtower to pay $13.5 million for repeatedly refusing to turn over documents that showed the church was aware of sexual abuse and did nothing to stop it.
Attorneys for the Watchtower filed an appeal. They argued that Judge Lewis had acted too soon in issuing the $13.5 million in sanctions and instead the trial court should have imposed less severe sanctions. The appellate court agreed.
In their ruling, the justices wrote, "We conclude the court erred in ordering terminating sanctions because there was no evidence that lesser sanctions would have failed to obtain Watchtower's compliance with the document production order and because there were other possible sanctions that could have effectively remedied the discovery violation. On remand, the court has broad discretion to start with a different sanction that does not wholly eliminate Watchtower's right to a trial."
Then, last year in the Padron case, a different superior court judge, Richard Strauss, followed the appellate court's advice and instead of issuing terminating sanctions imposed $4000 daily sanctions on the Watchtower for refusing to turn over the documents that Padron's attorneys had requested.
Again, Watchtower's attorneys filed an appeal.
On October 11, those attorneys appeared before the Fourth District Appellate Court to argue that the trial court was wrong to issue daily sanctions — exactly what they had argued for in the appellate court Lopez case just months prior.
Justice Richard Huffman did not hide his displeasure that Watchtower's attorneys were arguing against what they had previously supported to the same court.
"You can't have it both ways," Huffman said during argument. "[The Lopez] ruling has come around to bite you and now you're saying, 'not fair, not fair.' You were headed in one direction before and now you’re headed another way. It's a breathtaking position to listen to."
The appellate court has 90 days to issue its formal ruling."
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By James Thomas Rook Jr.
Melody's Interview at 2017 "Don't Give Up" Regional Convention".
Last year my wife and I attended an Assembly in Orangeburg, SC, where a brother in an interview on stage was proud that he had not said a single word to his disfellowshipped father in over 20 years. We were sitting up close and could see his face in person, and on the large monitors. His declaration of cruelty was followed by intense applause from the audience.
We were stunned and horrified.
This video was originally posted on YOUTUBE by the mother of Melody, at a Regional 2017 Convention where she is proud of having shunned her sister, who is disfellowshipped, but many adverse comments on YOUTUBE made her ashamed ..... and she took the posting down.
I got this video copy from the Russian equivalent of YOUTUBE web site, RUTUBE.COM.
After she details her cruelty to her sister, the audience reaction is vigorous applause.
THIS IS WHY the Russian government and most of the people HATE Jehovah's Witnesses.
Oblivious, clueless, extreme cruelty, in the name of righteousness.
Melody's interview @ the Regional Convention 2017 _Don't Give Up_.mp4
By James Thomas Rook Jr.
My wife and I are planning to see the movie "DUNKIRK" this weekend, and I have seen "Saving Private Ryan", and "Schindler's List", all very violent war movies, and in my opinion very IMPORTANT movies to see.
The list of incredibly important movies could fill a notebook.
I could probably list 10 off the top of my head .. some important for very different reasons.
"The Notebook" comes to mind.
Some, merely cultural icons, like the entire STAR WARS and STAR TREK franchises, etc.
What has been your actual experience about what kinds of movies the Brotherhood actually sees ?
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