Jehovah's Witness cannot appeal expulsion to a judge: Supreme Court

[Hankulan Tunani]

It’s not about winning or losing. That’s bureaucracy at its best. It has become, which group they can appeal to and satisfy in order to be elected or kept in a high position. This is happening throughout the world, now.

God is not the matrix, its humanity, and with that are circumstance that is plaguing all religions throughout the world, decade’s long unreported child abuse, through modern laws. Too bad, a crystal ball wasn’t used back then to see the future of governments and civil litigations.

Meanwhile, governments don’t want to intervene in a domestic judicial matter, while wanting to intervene in judicial matters through the lower courts. Shot of whiskey? ?

[Space Merchant]

On 6/3/2018 at 2:49 PM, Srecko Sostar said:

Who really won?? What god won in Canada? And what god won in Russia? :))))

Clearly something big is going on in the EU even regarding Russia. It is no surprise the general public does not know what is going on compared to those who understand and is aware. The fact that 374 laws were made, people were kicked out of their homes by force and 1k arrest all coupled with critics being captured and or killed, with, lastly, Putin winning, should be a read flag, especially when the whole RoC and Ukraine thing is escalating as we speak.

@Hankulan Tunani Governments don't intervene as much because of lines they cannot cross, which will lead to problems even outside of religion.

Other than that, these judges appear to have just left a very early Christmas event hence their clothing.

[JOHN BUTLER]

If I read it right this man lost half of his business because he was disfellowshipped. 

Um, being disfellowshipped for drunkenness i can understand, but I presume the JW's that stopped dealing with him in business didn't have contracts to adhere to. 

Best not put all your eggs in one basket then. Probably best to do business dealings in the world that we should be no part of. 

Obviously I know nothing of this case, but it does seem a shame that he has lost so much because of the judgements of men. 

 

[Space Merchant]

3 minutes ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

If I read it right this man lost half of his business because he was disfellowshipped. 

Um, being disfellowshipped for drunkenness i can understand, but I presume the JW's that stopped dealing with him in business didn't have contracts to adhere to. 

Pretty much. Grounds of Excommunication results in Church ties being cut, which includes members of the church in of itself, hence shun command that is in connection with expelling.

The article reads that some of his customers were/are of the same faith as him, mostly the same people who go to/or use to go to the same JW church with this individual.

Other than that, a good percentage of his business is still available to the public, just that small circle of JWs that were his customers are no longer putting revenue into said business.

6 minutes ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

Best not put all your eggs in one basket then. Probably best to do business dealings in the world that we should be no part of. 

We shouldn't be part of the world, it goes for all men and women, we already have several examples in the last few months. As long as his business does not take negative turns, he should be fine.

7 minutes ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

Obviously I know nothing of this case, but it does seem a shame that he has lost so much because of the judgements of men. 

Anything and everything in connection to Excommunication is Biblical, it does not originate with men, it originates with Christ, hence what was entrusted. For although he is expelled from his church, his business can still benefit others since all church ties are cut due to what he was excommunicated for.

For if a man sells fish and crabs to all even his church and eventually cut off from that community, his business isn't totally dead, only lost a good portion of customers who are of said church.

That being said, drunkenness and verbal abuse - for such things like that would get you booted from the church community because the Bible speaks regarding such things: drinking to the point to where you lose control and a foul mouth.

The individual also  admitted to 2 situations of drunkenness, whereas one of those occasions, he verbally abusing his wife -- wrongdoing he attributed to family stress over the earlier expelling of his 15 year old daughter from the church. Furthermore, Church Discipline committed by the church, which is referred to as a judicial committee stated that the individual was of the church since 1980, and that he himself would be expelled because he was not sufficiently repentant. And after that, for Wall, he took more actions upon himself and it all went downhill from there.

[Shiwiii]

On 6/3/2018 at 10:36 AM, Jack Ryan said:

The Jehovah's Witness organization reversed direction and decided that disfellowshipping and shunning are very powerful tools for maintaining control over the activities and behavior of members.

It must mean that this "new light" was right all along and they are being enlightened by the Catholic Church, or they're continuing down the path that the Catholics have taken in response to many things to include CSA.